Temporära autonoma zoner – transkript

1 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:15,180 I still think the temporary autonomous zone is a relevant idea because it happens.

2 00:00:16,140 --> 00:00:21,480 And this thing that happens is that no matter how much oppression there is from the state

3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,440 or how much monoculture there is from corporate global capital

4 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,760 or no matter how much boredom, no matter how much slavery,

5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,040 I mean at any period in history, somehow magical community happens.

6 00:00:36,220 --> 00:00:37,440 I don't know how else to call it.

7 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:57,130 Välkomna till Apans Anatomi.

8 00:00:58,330 --> 00:01:04,890 Idag tänker jag kasta mig in i att prata om autonoma zoner.

9 00:01:05,630 --> 00:01:08,730 Jag har ju kört en serie om zoner här i podden.

10 00:01:08,730 --> 00:01:13,570 Och den här texten har jag egentligen velat ha med från början.

11 00:01:13,650 --> 00:01:16,490 Och jag har velat diskutera den med dig, Gabriel Widding.

12 00:01:16,790 --> 00:01:17,810 Välkommen till podden.

13 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:20,190 Tack så mycket. Kul att vara här.

14 00:01:20,750 --> 00:01:23,770 Och Gabriel, vem är du?

15 00:01:23,770 --> 00:01:26,430 Jag låter alltid mina gäster presentera sig själv.

16 00:01:27,490 --> 00:01:32,590 Ja, om dagarna jobbar jag med scenkonst, performance och teater och så.

17 00:01:33,170 --> 00:01:39,110 Men jag har en bakgrund inom både rollspel och aktivism

18 00:01:39,110 --> 00:01:42,710 och olika typer av deltagarkulturer kan man väl säga.

19 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:47,710 Vilket jag hoppas blir relevant i det här samtalet.

20 00:01:47,990 --> 00:01:51,710 Ja, det är det som jag tänker knyter an till det här samtalet.

21 00:01:51,710 --> 00:01:52,710 För...

22 00:01:53,770 --> 00:01:56,290 Om vi ska prata om zoner så tänker jag...

23 00:01:56,290 --> 00:01:57,770 Vi börjar en annan ända.

24 00:01:57,830 --> 00:02:03,130 Vi ska prata om en amerikansk anarkist som heter Peter Lamborn Wilson.

25 00:02:04,070 --> 00:02:07,370 Han föddes direkt efter andra världskriget, 45,

26 00:02:07,970 --> 00:02:11,530 och gick bort för tre år sedan.

27 00:02:12,090 --> 00:02:15,810 Och han släppte en massa böcker både i eget namn,

28 00:02:15,810 --> 00:02:20,630 men kanske är mer känd under sin pseudonym,

29 00:02:20,910 --> 00:02:22,250 liksom Hacking Bay.

30 00:02:23,770 --> 00:02:25,710 När började du läsa Hacking Bay?

31 00:02:26,210 --> 00:02:28,430 Jag förknippar Hacking Bay väldigt mycket med

32 00:02:28,430 --> 00:02:33,590 de tidiga upplevelserna av internet.

33 00:02:34,650 --> 00:02:40,150 Att som tonåring sitta och söka sig fram till

34 00:02:40,150 --> 00:02:44,850 radikalt innehåll eller radikala texter på nätet.

35 00:02:44,850 --> 00:02:49,450 Och då kom man väldigt snabbt, skulle jag säga, till Hacking Bay.

36 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:52,850 Och de här korta...

37 00:02:53,770 --> 00:02:58,030 Manifest-liknande texterna som, jag gissar,

38 00:02:58,150 --> 00:03:00,430 först spreds i fanzinform,

39 00:03:00,730 --> 00:03:03,830 och sen hittade sin väg upp på nätet.

40 00:03:04,210 --> 00:03:07,290 Men jag skulle säga att det här tänkandet på något sätt

41 00:03:07,290 --> 00:03:11,250 har följt mig de senaste 20-25 åren.

42 00:03:12,130 --> 00:03:15,150 Jag stötte på Hacking Bay...

43 00:03:15,150 --> 00:03:18,050 Det var bokande info när man, liksom,

44 00:03:18,890 --> 00:03:23,730 ung 17-åring eller något sånt, det låg vid Horns Tull, då.

45 00:03:23,770 --> 00:03:26,490 När jag drällde in så var det här en av de

46 00:03:26,490 --> 00:03:30,470 bästsäljande böckerna om temporära autonoma zoner

47 00:03:30,470 --> 00:03:32,630 och samlingskrifter han gav ut.

48 00:03:33,850 --> 00:03:36,750 Och det, för mig, det släpptes på det här

49 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:39,150 semiotextet och Autonomedia,

50 00:03:39,390 --> 00:03:42,550 ett amerikanskt New York-förlag

51 00:03:42,550 --> 00:03:44,630 från Brooklyn.

52 00:03:45,930 --> 00:03:49,330 Och de där skrifterna, de var väldigt små

53 00:03:49,330 --> 00:03:52,250 och kärnfulla. Det fanns en rad sådana som kom.

54 00:03:52,250 --> 00:03:53,130 Det var...

55 00:03:53,130 --> 00:03:56,730 Deleuze och Gattari, olika skrifter, var liksom...

56 00:03:56,730 --> 00:03:59,470 Det var Kamat, Jacques Kamat,

57 00:03:59,610 --> 00:04:03,650 som också gick bort nu, bara för knappt ett år sedan.

58 00:04:04,410 --> 00:04:08,690 Och en skrift från en pseudonym som heter PM,

59 00:04:08,930 --> 00:04:10,110 som heter Bollo Bollo.

60 00:04:10,730 --> 00:04:11,090 Okej.

61 00:04:11,710 --> 00:04:16,170 Och alla de där var liksom det typiska slutet av 80-talet,

62 00:04:16,230 --> 00:04:19,250 att det kändes som så här, muren har fallit,

63 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:23,090 68, vänstern är bortdöende,

64 00:04:23,130 --> 00:04:25,690 och man försökte...

65 00:04:25,690 --> 00:04:29,250 De här stora berättelserna är förbi,

66 00:04:29,530 --> 00:04:32,130 det är liksom inspirerat av postmodernismen,

67 00:04:32,750 --> 00:04:35,530 ibland kallas det här för postanarkism,

68 00:04:35,790 --> 00:04:38,210 liksom en så poststrukturalistisk,

69 00:04:38,370 --> 00:04:40,390 postmoderna anarkism,

70 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:43,830 att man är inte ute efter de här stora

71 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:47,130 anarkistiska berättelserna längre.

72 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:51,350 Och ingen annan än Hakeem Bey, tror jag,

73 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:52,610 liksom berättar de här,

74 00:04:53,130 --> 00:04:55,810 anarkismen med litet A,

75 00:04:55,950 --> 00:04:58,170 eller små, små historierna.

76 00:04:58,770 --> 00:05:03,590 Nej, men det är ju inte riktigt politisk teori som vi känner den,

77 00:05:03,730 --> 00:05:07,390 utan det är ju politisk poesi, kanske.

78 00:05:07,850 --> 00:05:10,350 Det är ju liksom ett kreativt skrivande,

79 00:05:10,470 --> 00:05:16,470 en sorts medvetande ström som möter oss i Hakeem Bey's texter.

80 00:05:17,190 --> 00:05:20,210 Och han gjorde det ofta som nyhetsbrev,

81 00:05:20,210 --> 00:05:22,770 det var väl därför det fick också som spridning i,

82 00:05:23,130 --> 00:05:24,870 det tidiga, tidiga internet,

83 00:05:25,130 --> 00:05:27,310 att han gjorde små kommuniker,

84 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:31,390 han skickade ut och kallade sig för olika saker,

85 00:05:31,570 --> 00:05:34,510 där han kastade ihop olika begrepp,

86 00:05:34,630 --> 00:05:37,850 och sen så satt han och liksom latchade kring dem,

87 00:05:37,930 --> 00:05:40,310 och tänkte kring dem, och lekte kring dem.

88 00:05:40,490 --> 00:05:43,030 Så att man, om vi tar poesi och terrorism,

89 00:05:43,210 --> 00:05:45,770 och slänger ihop det till poetisk terrorism,

90 00:05:46,630 --> 00:05:51,530 eller om vi tar filosofiska diskussionen kring ontologi,

91 00:05:51,530 --> 00:05:53,050 liksom vilka begrepp som,

92 00:05:53,130 --> 00:05:57,530 grunder som utgör liksom vår verklighet,

93 00:05:57,610 --> 00:05:59,510 som vi kan förstå verkligheten igenom,

94 00:05:59,650 --> 00:06:01,810 och sen slänger ihop det med anarkism,

95 00:06:01,910 --> 00:06:04,030 och vad den ontologiska anarkismen innebär,

96 00:06:04,570 --> 00:06:05,530 det är för någonting.

97 00:06:06,570 --> 00:06:11,590 Och så kryddat med mycket också religion,

98 00:06:11,870 --> 00:06:13,750 eller religion.

99 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:14,290 Ja, precis.

100 00:06:14,570 --> 00:06:18,550 Det är ju någon sorts teologi här som pågår.

101 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:21,630 Och det är väl liksom, teologi och politisk teori

102 00:06:21,630 --> 00:06:23,110 har väl alltid varit grann,

103 00:06:23,130 --> 00:06:24,970 grannar med varandra på något sätt.

104 00:06:25,970 --> 00:06:27,910 Men det är också väldigt mycket ett uttryck för

105 00:06:27,910 --> 00:06:30,530 liksom 90-talets motkultur,

106 00:06:30,670 --> 00:06:32,010 eller liksom counterculture,

107 00:06:32,770 --> 00:06:37,410 som ju var väldigt levande under hela 90-talet,

108 00:06:37,410 --> 00:06:39,450 och kanske kulminerade med liksom

109 00:06:39,450 --> 00:06:41,890 Matrix och Fight Club,

110 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:43,410 och den typen av berättelser,

111 00:06:44,170 --> 00:06:46,450 men som sen kanske dog med

112 00:06:46,450 --> 00:06:49,770 9-11 2001,

113 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:52,950 när liksom hela 90-talets,

114 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:56,170 liksom motkultur på något sätt

115 00:06:56,170 --> 00:06:57,710 går in i väggen.

116 00:06:58,110 --> 00:06:58,310 Mm.

117 00:06:59,330 --> 00:07:02,950 Och med Harkin Bey kan man säga

118 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:05,490 att det är i stort sett också en börjare,

119 00:07:05,730 --> 00:07:07,910 utan han skrev ju mycket om

120 00:07:07,910 --> 00:07:10,410 olika former av utopier,

121 00:07:10,510 --> 00:07:11,790 han skrev om pirater,

122 00:07:12,090 --> 00:07:14,070 han skrev om

123 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:16,350 Hashashins,

124 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:18,350 om olika länmördarkulter,

125 00:07:19,170 --> 00:07:20,370 han levde ju,

126 00:07:20,410 --> 00:07:22,350 han reste mycket och var i India,

127 00:07:22,950 --> 00:07:25,170 han höll på med olika former av,

128 00:07:26,270 --> 00:07:27,590 jag vet inte om det var någon sån här,

129 00:07:27,610 --> 00:07:29,670 han sökte Shiva-kulter,

130 00:07:29,790 --> 00:07:30,510 och någon form av

131 00:07:30,510 --> 00:07:32,650 Tantra-yoga,

132 00:07:32,910 --> 00:07:35,770 och sen så var han i Iran innan revolutionen,

133 00:07:35,770 --> 00:07:39,210 och studerade och jobbade som journalist där,

134 00:07:39,330 --> 00:07:39,730 så att han,

135 00:07:40,210 --> 00:07:43,010 han har verkligen sökt sig till alla så här

136 00:07:43,010 --> 00:07:44,770 kätterska och avvikande

137 00:07:45,390 --> 00:07:47,070 och minoritetsströmningar

138 00:07:47,070 --> 00:07:48,770 inom olika stora religioner,

139 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:52,770 sökt sig till Sufism och Taoism,

140 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:56,450 och olika så här esoteriska former

141 00:07:56,450 --> 00:07:58,950 och outsider i islamströmningar,

142 00:07:59,890 --> 00:08:00,090 och det,

143 00:08:01,130 --> 00:08:03,530 han har ju samma sätt att förhålla sig till det

144 00:08:03,530 --> 00:08:05,350 som han har att förhålla sig till

145 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:08,930 historia och anarkism på det sättet.

146 00:08:09,450 --> 00:08:10,950 Ja, men om vi tänker på det här med ontologi,

147 00:08:11,690 --> 00:08:12,290 så kan man väl,

148 00:08:13,310 --> 00:08:15,050 eller jag försthäller mig det som att

149 00:08:15,050 --> 00:08:16,790 Västerlandet,

150 00:08:17,070 --> 00:08:19,190 också Österlandet,

151 00:08:19,270 --> 00:08:19,990 har en väldigt

152 00:08:19,990 --> 00:08:21,950 hierarkisk ontologi,

153 00:08:21,950 --> 00:08:22,910 det vill säga,

154 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:26,370 vi tänker oss att verkligheten

155 00:08:26,370 --> 00:08:29,250 har olika lag

156 00:08:29,250 --> 00:08:30,190 eller nivåer

157 00:08:30,190 --> 00:08:31,970 där Gud är högst

158 00:08:31,970 --> 00:08:33,950 och under Gud finns änglarna

159 00:08:34,630 --> 00:08:35,950 eller, och under änglarna

160 00:08:36,710 --> 00:08:37,830 människorna,

161 00:08:38,010 --> 00:08:39,350 under människorna, djuren,

162 00:08:39,590 --> 00:08:41,570 under djuren, växterna,

163 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:43,510 under växterna, jorden,

164 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:44,690 eller mineralerna.

165 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:46,370 Så att det finns en liksom,

166 00:08:47,070 --> 00:08:49,350 en sorts hierarki som kommer ur,

167 00:08:49,770 --> 00:08:52,290 egentligen ur Platon och Aristoteles,

168 00:08:52,290 --> 00:08:53,710 men framförallt de här

169 00:08:53,710 --> 00:08:55,430 nyplatonikerna,

170 00:08:55,510 --> 00:08:56,290 alltså kristna

171 00:08:56,290 --> 00:08:58,870 nyplatoniker som tänker sig att

172 00:08:58,870 --> 00:09:01,290 verkligheten emanerar

173 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:03,330 eller liksom flödar ur

174 00:09:03,330 --> 00:09:05,390 Gud som är det högsta

175 00:09:05,390 --> 00:09:07,610 och sen är det liksom lägre och lägre

176 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:09,910 livsformer på något sätt

177 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:10,970 i den här trappan

178 00:09:10,970 --> 00:09:13,730 och de lägre livsformerna sträcker sig

179 00:09:13,730 --> 00:09:14,590 mot de högre

180 00:09:14,590 --> 00:09:18,050 eller är liksom tänkta för de högre

181 00:09:18,050 --> 00:09:19,910 så liksom jorden är till

182 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:21,710 för djuren

183 00:09:21,710 --> 00:09:23,610 eller för växterna

184 00:09:23,610 --> 00:09:25,670 och växterna är till för djuren att äta

185 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:27,550 och djuren är till för människorna

186 00:09:27,550 --> 00:09:29,230 att liksom använda

187 00:09:29,230 --> 00:09:31,310 och människorna är till för Gud

188 00:09:31,310 --> 00:09:33,690 alltså vi ska sträcka oss

189 00:09:33,690 --> 00:09:35,090 mot det som är högre än oss

190 00:09:35,090 --> 00:09:37,330 och det

191 00:09:37,330 --> 00:09:39,610 Hakenbeg försöker göra är ju

192 00:09:39,610 --> 00:09:41,290 att gräva fram

193 00:09:41,290 --> 00:09:43,210 en annan typ av ontologi

194 00:09:43,210 --> 00:09:45,290 en ontologisk anarkism då

195 00:09:45,290 --> 00:09:47,590 där vi

196 00:09:47,590 --> 00:09:49,510 istället tänker oss verkligheten

197 00:09:49,510 --> 00:09:50,870 som platt

198 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:52,850 eller liksom som ett fält

199 00:09:52,850 --> 00:09:55,230 där alla de här komponenterna

200 00:09:55,230 --> 00:09:56,990 på något sätt finns

201 00:09:56,990 --> 00:09:58,970 på samma nivå

202 00:09:58,970 --> 00:10:00,650 vilket betyder

203 00:10:00,650 --> 00:10:02,950 att om det finns en Gud

204 00:10:02,950 --> 00:10:04,370 så finns Gud bara

205 00:10:04,370 --> 00:10:07,190 i oss som en skärva

206 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:08,670 eller som en möjlighet

207 00:10:08,670 --> 00:10:11,370 och det där ansluter

208 00:10:11,370 --> 00:10:12,830 ju mig till någon sorts

209 00:10:12,830 --> 00:10:14,410 esoterisk

210 00:10:14,410 --> 00:10:16,290 mystisk tradition att

211 00:10:16,290 --> 00:10:18,750 att det gudomliga

212 00:10:18,750 --> 00:10:20,190 om det nu finns

213 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:22,910 finns överallt

214 00:10:22,910 --> 00:10:24,850 det finns liksom lika mycket

215 00:10:24,850 --> 00:10:26,750 i en lerpöl

216 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:28,450 en mask

217 00:10:28,450 --> 00:10:30,790 eller en spottlåska

218 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:31,850 som det finns

219 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:33,530 uppe i himlen

220 00:10:33,530 --> 00:10:36,210 så vissa mystiker

221 00:10:36,210 --> 00:10:37,190 har ju försökt liksom

222 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:39,310 vandra den här trappan

223 00:10:39,310 --> 00:10:41,650 och komma högre i hierarkin

224 00:10:41,650 --> 00:10:43,630 och andra mystiker har mer

225 00:10:43,630 --> 00:10:45,590 rört sig på det här

226 00:10:45,590 --> 00:10:47,550 i den här ontologiska

227 00:10:47,550 --> 00:10:49,410 anarkismen på något sätt

228 00:10:49,410 --> 00:10:50,690 så det blir ett sätt

229 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:58,710 –to read these strange fillers in a political way.

230 00:10:59,710 --> 00:11:03,090 There are a few pieces coming out of this.

231 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:14,550 When you talk about time and the other, about the creativity and the stagnation–

232 00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:16,710 –or chaos and order.

233 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:25,230 In many of the old myths, the creation happens and at the beginning there is chaos.

234 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:38,450 And out of the chaos, out of this state, the chaos arises as a kind of dragon or monster–

235 00:11:38,450 --> 00:11:45,810 –which is often together with the earth, together with the sky, or gives birth to children–

236 00:11:45,810 --> 00:11:46,690 –which are the first ones.

237 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:52,070 And their task is to destroy this chaos dragon and create the order.

238 00:11:52,070 --> 00:12:03,710 And this order, Hakenbein always writes this with big letters, order, or the state, or the empire, or the acting game.

239 00:12:04,430 --> 00:12:05,890 This feels very...

240 00:12:05,890 --> 00:12:14,810 It's after Grydebord, but it's before, or at the same time, when Negri's writings start to be read via Gattari–

241 00:12:14,810 --> 00:12:16,530 –to write about the empire.

242 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:25,250 Yes, but I think that this nomadology of Delöse Gattari spooks you in Negri.

243 00:12:25,250 --> 00:12:30,890 Where the state apparatus stands against the war machine.

244 00:12:31,630 --> 00:12:42,150 And the war machine is this more chaotic movement, in a way, which always threatens to break down the state and the order.

245 00:12:42,870 --> 00:12:43,030 Yes.

246 00:12:43,770 --> 00:12:45,710 And then comes this other temporality.

247 00:12:45,710 --> 00:12:45,830 Yes.

248 00:12:45,830 --> 00:12:45,850 Yes.

249 00:12:45,850 --> 00:12:45,870 Yes.

250 00:12:45,870 --> 00:12:45,890 Yes.

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299 00:12:49,850 --> 00:12:49,890 Yes.

300 00:12:49,890 --> 00:12:49,910 Yes.

301 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:49,930 Yes.

302 00:12:49,930 --> 00:12:49,970 Yes.

303 00:12:49,970 --> 00:12:49,990 Yes.

304 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:50,010 Yes.

305 00:12:50,010 --> 00:12:50,030 Yes.

306 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:50,050 Yes.

307 00:12:50,050 --> 00:12:50,070 Yes.

308 00:12:50,070 --> 00:12:50,090 Yes.

309 00:12:50,090 --> 00:12:50,110 Yes.

310 00:12:50,110 --> 00:12:50,130 Yes.

311 00:12:50,130 --> 00:12:50,170 Yes.

312 00:12:50,170 --> 00:12:50,190 Yes.

313 00:12:50,190 --> 00:12:50,230 Yes.

314 00:12:50,230 --> 00:12:50,250 Yes.

315 00:12:50,250 --> 00:12:50,290 Yes.

316 00:12:50,290 --> 00:12:50,310 Yes.

317 00:12:50,310 --> 00:12:50,350 Yes.

318 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:50,370 Yes.

319 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:50,410 Yes.

320 00:12:50,410 --> 00:12:50,450 Yes.

321 00:12:50,450 --> 00:12:50,470 Yes.

322 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:53,330 It's the time of order, and the order is created by the chaos.

323 00:12:53,330 --> 00:12:58,830 And Hakeem Bey forgets that it's not before and after,

324 00:12:59,030 --> 00:13:01,350 but the chaos has never died.

325 00:13:01,610 --> 00:13:06,270 It's a central slogan for him, so may it always come again.

326 00:13:06,810 --> 00:13:11,950 The chaos is still here, and the order is always shameful and illusory.

327 00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:19,350 It can appear that the state is so strong, or that God has such a firm grip,

328 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:31,810 or that the laws are so lonely, but all this is leaking, it's weak, it's in crisis,

329 00:13:32,070 --> 00:13:38,170 and it's not just outside of us, but it's also placed in our heads,

330 00:13:38,410 --> 00:13:44,510 that these are ideas, perceptions we have that uphold those hierarchies,

331 00:13:44,510 --> 00:13:48,910 and when we just let go of those perceptions,

332 00:13:48,910 --> 00:13:53,870 and we confess to this creative chaos,

333 00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:57,870 then we can in that way get it to fall.

334 00:13:58,510 --> 00:14:03,810 Yes, it's also like it requires a lot of violence and repression

335 00:14:03,810 --> 00:14:09,370 for these hierarchies, or this order, to be maintained, so to speak.

336 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:14,110 And this chaos that Bey longs for,

337 00:14:14,830 --> 00:14:17,110 it is also...

338 00:14:17,790 --> 00:14:18,610 Yes, it's present.

339 00:14:18,910 --> 00:14:26,190 We don't have to wait for the revolution to be able to live in this creative chaos,

340 00:14:26,850 --> 00:14:30,690 but it also exists here and now.

341 00:14:31,290 --> 00:14:34,470 So it also applies to time in that way,

342 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:41,030 that we don't necessarily have to hope for a freedom in the future,

343 00:14:41,250 --> 00:14:45,890 away from the revolution, but it has already happened, it is here,

344 00:14:46,130 --> 00:14:48,090 it lives and thrives.

345 00:14:48,910 --> 00:14:52,270 It can happen everywhere, both as a possibility.

346 00:14:52,270 --> 00:14:58,650 And then it also becomes, it also turns against a view

347 00:14:58,650 --> 00:15:04,710 that is either turned back or forward-looking,

348 00:15:05,150 --> 00:15:08,990 which both leads to a form of conveyance,

349 00:15:08,990 --> 00:15:14,750 if you say that communism, Christianity, paradise, will come,

350 00:15:14,750 --> 00:15:16,750 is it society?

351 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:18,750 Or the state?

352 00:15:18,750 --> 00:15:20,510 that we are going to achieve,

353 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:23,990 it becomes a hope and a wait,

354 00:15:24,350 --> 00:15:27,330 and it is something that somehow

355 00:15:27,330 --> 00:15:29,390 enslaves us under it,

356 00:15:29,510 --> 00:15:33,610 that there are all these fantastic things,

357 00:15:34,390 --> 00:15:36,510 the co-determining creativity,

358 00:15:37,230 --> 00:15:39,450 the free society,

359 00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:41,730 the free relations,

360 00:15:42,250 --> 00:15:44,070 the flying machines,

361 00:15:44,810 --> 00:15:47,030 all that is there when he means

362 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:50,370 that all that is there already exists here.

363 00:15:50,990 --> 00:15:52,530 They exist around us,

364 00:15:52,690 --> 00:15:55,890 it is just that they are unevenly distributed

365 00:15:55,890 --> 00:15:58,510 or we do not have access to them.

366 00:15:59,210 --> 00:16:01,090 And the same thing with history,

367 00:16:01,350 --> 00:16:03,390 that history is never something

368 00:16:03,390 --> 00:16:05,930 passed on that we can,

369 00:16:05,970 --> 00:16:08,570 with nostalgia, look back on,

370 00:16:08,970 --> 00:16:11,430 or a canon or something,

371 00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:13,610 some values that we have to

372 00:16:13,610 --> 00:16:15,810 crampingly hold on to

373 00:16:15,810 --> 00:16:17,010 by building institutions,

374 00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:19,550 that preserved those

375 00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:22,570 Swedish values or whatever.

376 00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:25,690 But history is always present,

377 00:16:26,050 --> 00:16:28,750 so when he looks and goes into all these,

378 00:16:29,390 --> 00:16:30,830 no matter if it is pirates,

379 00:16:31,270 --> 00:16:32,730 or hashashins,

380 00:16:33,050 --> 00:16:33,630 or like,

381 00:16:34,730 --> 00:16:35,590 sophists,

382 00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:37,150 dancing dervishes,

383 00:16:37,470 --> 00:16:38,390 or whatever he goes into,

384 00:16:38,490 --> 00:16:40,870 then it is something that he sees

385 00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:41,950 that exists here.

386 00:16:41,950 --> 00:16:44,410 He means that we need as much

387 00:16:44,410 --> 00:16:46,930 hacked satellites as we need,

388 00:16:46,930 --> 00:16:48,490 shaman masks right now,

389 00:16:48,570 --> 00:16:49,970 to succeed right now.

390 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:51,230 And they exist here.

391 00:16:53,230 --> 00:16:54,650 Yes, but it is a very

392 00:16:54,650 --> 00:16:57,310 wonderful and playful

393 00:16:57,310 --> 00:17:00,130 image of the world,

394 00:17:00,250 --> 00:17:00,690 in some way.

395 00:17:00,950 --> 00:17:01,210 Yes.

396 00:17:02,710 --> 00:17:03,970 We looked at another text

397 00:17:03,970 --> 00:17:04,810 that he had written

398 00:17:04,810 --> 00:17:05,930 that was about that,

399 00:17:06,050 --> 00:17:07,890 about immediatism,

400 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:09,310 about immobility.

401 00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:12,810 What is it that he goes through there?

402 00:17:13,569 --> 00:17:16,310 Well, Bayer is very critical

403 00:17:16,310 --> 00:17:16,730 to,

404 00:17:16,730 --> 00:17:19,349 just like Debord

405 00:17:19,349 --> 00:17:20,910 and the Situationists,

406 00:17:21,349 --> 00:17:23,010 there is some kind of basic

407 00:17:23,010 --> 00:17:24,970 criticism of

408 00:17:24,970 --> 00:17:26,510 the image of society,

409 00:17:26,950 --> 00:17:28,890 or what we today

410 00:17:28,890 --> 00:17:30,490 would think of as

411 00:17:30,490 --> 00:17:32,710 social media,

412 00:17:33,150 --> 00:17:34,710 or that we live

413 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:36,490 over-media.

414 00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:38,310 And Bayer proposes

415 00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:40,230 an aesthetic or a culture

416 00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:41,750 that is characterized by

417 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:43,810 immediatism, or immobility.

418 00:17:44,790 --> 00:17:45,810 That is, that we should

419 00:17:45,810 --> 00:17:47,930 gather to experience

420 00:17:47,930 --> 00:17:49,550 things together

421 00:17:49,550 --> 00:17:51,610 that are not for the cameras,

422 00:17:51,890 --> 00:17:53,670 not for the media,

423 00:17:53,890 --> 00:17:56,270 not for...

424 00:17:56,270 --> 00:17:57,350 The flow, then.

425 00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:58,290 No, exactly.

426 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:59,810 The click.

427 00:18:00,790 --> 00:18:03,810 And it feels both more

428 00:18:03,810 --> 00:18:05,050 current than ever,

429 00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:06,350 but also more, perhaps,

430 00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:08,090 outdated than ever.

431 00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:09,630 But it's interesting

432 00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:12,390 how he thinks that

433 00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:14,770 capitalism or capital

434 00:18:14,770 --> 00:18:15,690 needs,

435 00:18:15,690 --> 00:18:15,790 you know,

436 00:18:15,810 --> 00:18:16,650 mediation

437 00:18:16,650 --> 00:18:17,730 in order to be able

438 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,550 to suck into

439 00:18:19,550 --> 00:18:20,570 these underground

440 00:18:20,570 --> 00:18:21,910 movements.

441 00:18:22,370 --> 00:18:23,490 So we have to, in some way,

442 00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:24,310 close,

443 00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:25,610 seal

444 00:18:25,610 --> 00:18:27,570 these rooms

445 00:18:27,570 --> 00:18:29,250 so that capital

446 00:18:29,250 --> 00:18:30,370 should not be able

447 00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:31,710 to have any

448 00:18:31,710 --> 00:18:32,530 boundary

449 00:18:32,530 --> 00:18:33,750 against these

450 00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:35,090 subcultures

451 00:18:35,090 --> 00:18:35,750 or underground

452 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:36,530 cultures

453 00:18:36,530 --> 00:18:37,990 that Bayer

454 00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:38,890 longs for.

455 00:18:39,550 --> 00:18:40,670 I think

456 00:18:40,670 --> 00:18:42,290 several things

457 00:18:42,290 --> 00:18:43,030 are interesting

458 00:18:43,030 --> 00:18:43,730 with his

459 00:18:43,730 --> 00:18:44,730 chaos,

460 00:18:45,810 --> 00:18:47,190 his thoughts,

461 00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:49,870 and his view

462 00:18:49,870 --> 00:18:51,610 of anarchism,

463 00:18:51,790 --> 00:18:52,910 that he is a very

464 00:18:52,910 --> 00:18:56,170 unorthodox anarchist

465 00:18:56,170 --> 00:18:56,770 in that sense,

466 00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:57,890 and he was one of those

467 00:18:57,890 --> 00:18:58,530 who, for example,

468 00:18:58,650 --> 00:18:59,470 Mary Bookchin

469 00:18:59,470 --> 00:19:00,330 wrote a

470 00:19:00,330 --> 00:19:02,150 social anarchism

471 00:19:02,150 --> 00:19:03,830 or lifestyle anarchism

472 00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:04,590 that he made up

473 00:19:04,590 --> 00:19:05,850 with Huckin Bay

474 00:19:05,850 --> 00:19:06,930 and Bob Black

475 00:19:06,930 --> 00:19:07,450 and all those

476 00:19:07,450 --> 00:19:08,670 80-something anarchists

477 00:19:08,670 --> 00:19:09,410 that he thought

478 00:19:09,410 --> 00:19:11,030 had released

479 00:19:11,030 --> 00:19:12,370 both the

480 00:19:12,370 --> 00:19:13,390 working class

481 00:19:13,390 --> 00:19:14,930 or the

482 00:19:14,930 --> 00:19:15,690 social class

483 00:19:15,690 --> 00:19:16,190 and the

484 00:19:16,190 --> 00:19:16,570 big people

485 00:19:16,570 --> 00:19:18,010 and the majority

486 00:19:18,010 --> 00:19:18,650 and when you

487 00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:18,830 are going to

488 00:19:18,830 --> 00:19:19,850 gather a majority

489 00:19:19,850 --> 00:19:20,630 in society

490 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:21,370 without just

491 00:19:21,370 --> 00:19:22,410 saying that

492 00:19:22,410 --> 00:19:22,790 in fact

493 00:19:22,790 --> 00:19:23,770 we live in

494 00:19:23,770 --> 00:19:24,110 our

495 00:19:24,110 --> 00:19:25,250 tribes

496 00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:26,110 and communities

497 00:19:26,110 --> 00:19:27,430 and dinners

498 00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:28,170 and hang

499 00:19:28,170 --> 00:19:29,710 with each other

500 00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:30,410 and art

501 00:19:30,410 --> 00:19:31,030 performances

502 00:19:31,030 --> 00:19:32,170 and do things

503 00:19:32,170 --> 00:19:32,890 based on that

504 00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:33,410 and create

505 00:19:33,410 --> 00:19:33,770 our

506 00:19:33,770 --> 00:19:35,170 relationships

507 00:19:35,170 --> 00:19:36,450 based on that.

508 00:19:37,230 --> 00:19:38,650 While Huckin Bay's

509 00:19:38,650 --> 00:19:39,670 view of anarchism

510 00:19:39,670 --> 00:19:40,350 then becomes

511 00:19:40,350 --> 00:19:40,990 that

512 00:19:40,990 --> 00:19:42,670 anarchists

513 00:19:42,670 --> 00:19:43,290 are so careful

514 00:19:43,290 --> 00:19:43,630 to press

515 00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:44,490 that anarchy

516 00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:45,670 is not chaos,

517 00:19:45,690 --> 00:19:46,870 anarchy is

518 00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:47,630 another form

519 00:19:47,630 --> 00:19:48,210 of order

520 00:19:48,210 --> 00:19:49,830 a self-organized

521 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:50,190 order

522 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:50,710 and he just

523 00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:52,230 you just want to

524 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:53,110 create a new

525 00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:53,850 state

526 00:19:53,850 --> 00:19:55,310 is the name

527 00:19:55,310 --> 00:19:55,850 that the

528 00:19:55,850 --> 00:19:57,050 anarchistic

529 00:19:57,050 --> 00:19:57,570 order

530 00:19:57,570 --> 00:19:58,190 is just

531 00:19:58,190 --> 00:19:58,870 another

532 00:19:58,870 --> 00:20:00,350 state formation

533 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:00,810 in it

534 00:20:00,810 --> 00:20:01,370 but his

535 00:20:01,370 --> 00:20:02,990 idea is

536 00:20:02,990 --> 00:20:03,870 how are we

537 00:20:03,870 --> 00:20:03,910 going to

538 00:20:03,910 --> 00:20:04,330 keep

539 00:20:04,330 --> 00:20:04,670 that

540 00:20:04,670 --> 00:20:05,590 creative

541 00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:07,190 state

542 00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:08,190 constantly

543 00:20:08,190 --> 00:20:08,850 open

544 00:20:08,850 --> 00:20:10,170 and

545 00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:11,830 it may not

546 00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:12,250 be possible

547 00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:12,990 to create

548 00:20:12,990 --> 00:20:13,690 permanently

549 00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:14,130 because then

550 00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:14,410 it becomes

551 00:20:14,410 --> 00:20:15,050 institutions

552 00:20:15,050 --> 00:20:15,690 of

553 00:20:15,690 --> 00:20:17,190 but to keep

554 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:17,590 something

555 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:18,190 constantly

556 00:20:18,190 --> 00:20:18,630 open

557 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:19,250 is somewhere

558 00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:20,090 that all the time

559 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:20,710 has it in

560 00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:21,310 movement

561 00:20:21,310 --> 00:20:22,330 has it

562 00:20:22,330 --> 00:20:23,410 like nomadic

563 00:20:23,410 --> 00:20:24,650 inflating

564 00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:25,050 to be able

565 00:20:25,050 --> 00:20:26,190 to pop up

566 00:20:26,190 --> 00:20:26,750 at different

567 00:20:26,750 --> 00:20:27,370 places

568 00:20:27,370 --> 00:20:29,190 and so he

569 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:30,330 tries all the time

570 00:20:30,330 --> 00:20:31,050 to see

571 00:20:31,050 --> 00:20:31,810 like how

572 00:20:31,810 --> 00:20:32,030 that

573 00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:33,410 creativity

574 00:20:33,410 --> 00:20:34,330 can

575 00:20:34,330 --> 00:20:35,350 but

576 00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:36,670 you can

577 00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:37,210 put it up

578 00:20:37,210 --> 00:20:37,830 and you can

579 00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:38,350 take it away

580 00:20:38,350 --> 00:20:39,190 and like

581 00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:40,110 you take it

582 00:20:40,110 --> 00:20:40,410 more

583 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:41,090 when you

584 00:20:41,090 --> 00:20:41,410 go

585 00:20:41,410 --> 00:20:41,970 so to say

586 00:20:41,970 --> 00:20:42,670 you don't

587 00:20:42,670 --> 00:20:42,870 leave it

588 00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:43,950 to

589 00:20:43,950 --> 00:20:44,550 like

590 00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:45,310 be divided

591 00:20:45,310 --> 00:20:45,670 into

592 00:20:45,690 --> 00:20:47,530 an institution

593 00:20:47,530 --> 00:20:48,510 so that

594 00:20:48,510 --> 00:20:48,850 his

595 00:20:48,850 --> 00:20:50,450 communities

596 00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:51,770 no matter

597 00:20:51,770 --> 00:20:52,450 what it is

598 00:20:52,450 --> 00:20:53,190 so is

599 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:53,770 always

600 00:20:53,770 --> 00:20:54,510 some form

601 00:20:54,510 --> 00:20:54,830 of

602 00:20:54,830 --> 00:20:55,690 it's not

603 00:20:55,690 --> 00:20:56,330 a disaster

604 00:20:56,330 --> 00:20:57,670 if it

605 00:20:57,670 --> 00:20:59,150 like if you

606 00:20:59,150 --> 00:21:00,750 occupy a house

607 00:21:00,750 --> 00:21:01,370 and that house

608 00:21:01,370 --> 00:21:02,210 just stays

609 00:21:02,210 --> 00:21:03,130 for a week

610 00:21:03,130 --> 00:21:03,770 and then

611 00:21:03,770 --> 00:21:04,850 but this was

612 00:21:04,850 --> 00:21:05,370 a loss

613 00:21:05,370 --> 00:21:05,910 we didn't manage

614 00:21:05,910 --> 00:21:06,670 to create

615 00:21:06,670 --> 00:21:07,310 a permanent

616 00:21:07,310 --> 00:21:08,070 building

617 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:08,850 with activity

618 00:21:08,850 --> 00:21:10,390 but he is

619 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:10,790 more like

620 00:21:10,790 --> 00:21:11,370 but what

621 00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:12,390 what did we manage

622 00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:12,650 to create

623 00:21:12,650 --> 00:21:13,190 during this week

624 00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:14,310 for events

625 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:15,310 for relationships

626 00:21:15,310 --> 00:21:15,670 so

627 00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:17,170 this is

628 00:21:17,170 --> 00:21:18,050 important

629 00:21:18,050 --> 00:21:18,570 how can we

630 00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:18,970 take it

631 00:21:18,970 --> 00:21:19,810 to the next

632 00:21:19,810 --> 00:21:20,410 place

633 00:21:20,410 --> 00:21:22,050 yes but

634 00:21:22,050 --> 00:21:22,650 I think

635 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:23,170 that

636 00:21:23,170 --> 00:21:23,710 this

637 00:21:23,710 --> 00:21:25,850 criticism

638 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:26,950 is also

639 00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:27,450 it is

640 00:21:27,450 --> 00:21:27,930 true

641 00:21:27,930 --> 00:21:29,310 but

642 00:21:29,310 --> 00:21:30,650 we have to

643 00:21:30,650 --> 00:21:31,210 imagine

644 00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:31,610 us

645 00:21:31,610 --> 00:21:31,950 like

646 00:21:31,950 --> 00:21:32,590 you

647 00:21:32,590 --> 00:21:33,870 base

648 00:21:33,870 --> 00:21:34,330 project

649 00:21:34,330 --> 00:21:34,950 works

650 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:35,830 in a

651 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:37,070 kind of

652 00:21:37,070 --> 00:21:37,670 in moments

653 00:21:37,670 --> 00:21:37,990 of

654 00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:39,030 overflow

655 00:21:39,030 --> 00:21:39,890 so it

656 00:21:39,890 --> 00:21:40,350 is needed

657 00:21:40,350 --> 00:21:41,590 if you have

658 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:42,090 room

659 00:21:42,090 --> 00:21:42,830 and you

660 00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:43,150 have

661 00:21:43,150 --> 00:21:43,870 resources

662 00:21:43,870 --> 00:21:44,890 for a

663 00:21:44,890 --> 00:21:45,410 party

664 00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:46,690 or like

665 00:21:46,690 --> 00:21:47,690 a

666 00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:48,090 rave

667 00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:48,890 in a forest

668 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:49,310 or a

669 00:21:49,310 --> 00:21:49,690 live

670 00:21:49,690 --> 00:21:50,110 or whatever

671 00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:50,450 it is

672 00:21:50,450 --> 00:21:51,250 then you can

673 00:21:51,250 --> 00:21:51,490 like

674 00:21:51,490 --> 00:21:51,970 pull yourself

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683 00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:58,430 it

684 00:21:58,430 --> 00:21:59,150 in the community

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686 00:22:00,230 --> 00:22:00,550 in some

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693 00:22:05,690 --> 00:22:06,270 is about

694 00:22:06,270 --> 00:22:06,850 resource

695 00:22:06,850 --> 00:22:07,430 distribution

696 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:08,090 and like

697 00:22:08,090 --> 00:22:08,870 conflict

698 00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:09,290 about

699 00:22:09,290 --> 00:22:10,050 resources

700 00:22:10,050 --> 00:22:10,870 that like

701 00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:11,750 class

702 00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:12,330 or

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704 00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:13,950 is about

705 00:22:13,950 --> 00:22:14,330 like

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707 00:22:15,210 --> 00:22:16,030 scant

708 00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:17,110 resources

709 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:17,750 or like

710 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:18,750 keep

711 00:22:18,750 --> 00:22:19,470 territory

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721 00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:25,190 where

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723 00:22:26,190 --> 00:22:26,510 is

724 00:22:26,510 --> 00:22:28,310 always

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727 00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:29,990 of

728 00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:30,810 overflow

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731 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:32,650 a

732 00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:32,990 basic

733 00:22:32,990 --> 00:22:33,450 condition

734 00:22:33,450 --> 00:22:33,710 for

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736 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:34,310 is

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742 00:22:38,050 --> 00:22:38,410 eaten

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746 00:22:39,610 --> 00:22:40,450 there

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748 00:22:40,690 --> 00:22:41,170 room

749 00:22:41,170 --> 00:22:41,810 that

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752 00:22:42,370 --> 00:22:42,710 and so

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759 00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:44,930 surplus

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761 00:22:45,210 --> 00:22:45,410 have

762 00:22:45,410 --> 00:22:45,910 to find

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764 00:22:46,210 --> 00:22:46,570 and

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783 00:22:56,290 --> 00:22:56,590 start

784 00:22:56,590 --> 00:22:57,510 working

785 00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:57,690 and

786 00:22:57,690 --> 00:22:58,010 build

787 00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:58,310 up

788 00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:58,470 an

789 00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:59,030 overflow

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815 00:23:09,690 --> 00:23:10,850 brings

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819 00:23:11,670 --> 00:23:11,890 it

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821 00:23:13,030 --> 00:23:13,370 us

822 00:23:13,370 --> 00:23:14,170 it is

823 00:23:14,170 --> 00:23:14,370 the only

824 00:23:14,370 --> 00:23:14,570 way

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826 00:23:14,750 --> 00:23:15,050 get

827 00:23:15,050 --> 00:23:15,190 us

828 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:15,390 to

829 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:15,890 work

830 00:23:15,890 --> 00:23:16,210 to

831 00:23:16,210 --> 00:23:17,010 maintain

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834 00:23:17,890 --> 00:23:18,430 and

835 00:23:18,430 --> 00:23:19,470 scarcity

836 00:23:19,470 --> 00:23:21,670 it is

837 00:23:21,670 --> 00:23:22,070 so

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839 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:23,810 for

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845 00:23:26,670 --> 00:23:27,490 should

846 00:23:27,490 --> 00:23:28,990 be

847 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:29,430 like

848 00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:30,150 Aron

849 00:23:30,150 --> 00:23:30,770 Bastani

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873 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:43,530 with

874 00:23:43,530 --> 00:23:43,690 a

875 00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:43,790 lot

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886 00:23:48,790 --> 00:23:49,790 would

887 00:23:49,790 --> 00:23:50,950 collapse

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895 00:23:53,650 --> 00:23:54,190 where

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897 00:23:54,770 --> 00:23:55,190 marginal

898 00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:55,610 costs

899 00:23:55,610 --> 00:23:55,890 to

900 00:23:55,890 --> 00:23:56,290 produce

901 00:23:56,290 --> 00:23:56,850 new

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903 00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:57,930 or

904 00:23:57,930 --> 00:23:58,730 copy

905 00:23:58,730 --> 00:23:59,730 information

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913 00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:03,210 it

914 00:24:03,210 --> 00:24:03,590 doesn't

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918 00:24:06,290 --> 00:24:06,490 that

919 00:24:06,490 --> 00:24:07,130 situation

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923 00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:10,910 work

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926 00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:12,390 situations

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928 00:24:12,610 --> 00:24:12,910 has to

929 00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:13,470 cause

930 00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:13,610 a

931 00:24:13,610 --> 00:24:13,850 loss

932 00:24:13,850 --> 00:24:14,010 it

933 00:24:14,010 --> 00:24:14,370 has to

934 00:24:14,370 --> 00:24:14,990 create

935 00:24:14,990 --> 00:24:15,150 a

936 00:24:15,150 --> 00:24:15,670 license

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938 00:24:15,870 --> 00:24:16,430 patent

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941 00:24:17,150 --> 00:24:17,810 should

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943 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:19,190 subscribe

944 00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:19,590 to get

945 00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:20,230 access

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947 00:24:20,510 --> 00:24:20,790 that

948 00:24:20,790 --> 00:24:21,390 overflow

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966 00:24:29,930 --> 00:24:30,150 have

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977 00:24:33,130 --> 00:24:33,450 piece

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979 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:34,050 internet

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981 00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:34,710 rent

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983 00:24:35,130 --> 00:24:35,790 piece

984 00:24:35,790 --> 00:24:36,250 of

985 00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:36,710 music

986 00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:37,270 catalog

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1009 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:46,110 is

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1014 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:48,510 you

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1020 00:24:51,630 --> 00:24:51,770 the

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1023 00:24:52,890 --> 00:24:53,090 that

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1026 00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:56,070 creating

1027 00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:56,330 a

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1035 00:24:59,770 --> 00:25:00,650 strategy

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1037 00:25:01,410 --> 00:25:02,270 withdrawal

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1045 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:07,710 any

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1049 00:25:09,030 --> 00:25:09,350 in

1050 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:09,930 immediate

1051 00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:10,730 conflict

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1086 00:25:29,610 --> 00:25:30,550 because

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1099 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:37,330 better

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1101 00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:38,430 withdraw

1102 00:25:38,430 --> 00:25:38,950 the

1103 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:40,010 conflict

1104 00:25:40,010 --> 00:25:41,070 instead

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1106 00:25:41,410 --> 00:25:42,650 confront

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1108 00:25:43,090 --> 00:25:43,430 kill

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1110 00:25:43,550 --> 00:25:43,970 police

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1117 00:25:46,690 --> 00:25:47,150 the police

1118 00:25:47,150 --> 00:25:47,390 and

1119 00:25:47,390 --> 00:25:47,770 kill

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1122 00:25:48,510 --> 00:25:48,970 the police

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1127 00:25:50,370 --> 00:25:50,730 police

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1130 00:25:51,530 --> 00:25:51,770 that

1131 00:25:51,770 --> 00:25:52,310 situation

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1140 00:25:57,310 --> 00:25:57,490 power

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1144 00:25:58,730 --> 00:25:59,250 shift

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1146 00:25:59,870 --> 00:26:00,170 you

1147 00:26:00,170 --> 00:26:01,290 no longer

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1150 00:26:03,090 --> 00:26:03,510 police

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1153 00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:05,310 authority

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1358 00:27:46,690 --> 00:27:46,930 a

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1385 00:27:59,510 --> 00:28:00,030 outmatched

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1395 00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:04,110 house

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1436 00:28:24,090 --> 00:28:24,790 that

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1459 00:28:35,650 --> 00:28:37,050 seek

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1463 00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:41,090 of the

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1470 00:28:44,170 --> 00:28:44,790 go

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1472 00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:45,730 and take

1473 00:28:45,730 --> 00:28:46,290 room

1474 00:28:46,290 --> 00:28:46,550 in

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1477 00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:48,230 just

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1480 00:28:49,410 --> 00:28:49,530 the

1481 00:28:49,530 --> 00:28:49,910 conflict

1482 00:28:49,910 --> 00:28:50,670 arises

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1485 00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:52,190 create

1486 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:52,410 that

1487 00:28:52,410 --> 00:28:52,870 hatch

1488 00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:53,310 of

1489 00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:53,970 freedom

1490 00:28:53,970 --> 00:28:54,930 and

1491 00:28:54,930 --> 00:28:55,130 then

1492 00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:55,630 skip

1493 00:28:55,630 --> 00:28:56,650 legal

1494 00:28:56,650 --> 00:28:57,430 consequences

1495 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:57,870 and so

1496 00:28:57,870 --> 00:28:58,110 on

1497 00:28:58,110 --> 00:28:59,030 or

1498 00:28:59,030 --> 00:28:59,270 so

1499 00:28:59,270 --> 00:28:59,670 it's

1500 00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:00,130 also

1501 00:29:00,130 --> 00:29:02,010 by

1502 00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:03,790 taking

1503 00:29:03,790 --> 00:29:04,010 those

1504 00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:04,530 places

1505 00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:04,970 and

1506 00:29:04,970 --> 00:29:06,070 create

1507 00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:06,930 open

1508 00:29:06,930 --> 00:29:07,550 them

1509 00:29:07,550 --> 00:29:07,790 for

1510 00:29:07,790 --> 00:29:08,210 others

1511 00:29:08,210 --> 00:29:08,570 so

1512 00:29:08,570 --> 00:29:10,310 it

1513 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:11,090 also

1514 00:29:11,090 --> 00:29:11,430 means

1515 00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:11,790 how

1516 00:29:11,790 --> 00:29:12,190 much

1517 00:29:12,190 --> 00:29:12,410 you

1518 00:29:12,410 --> 00:29:12,770 manage

1519 00:29:12,770 --> 00:29:12,950 to

1520 00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:13,470 anchor

1521 00:29:13,470 --> 00:29:14,470 those

1522 00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:14,930 places

1523 00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:16,610 to see

1524 00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:17,130 if they

1525 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:17,830 can be

1526 00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:18,870 permanent

1527 00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:19,670 it

1528 00:29:19,670 --> 00:29:20,970 requires

1529 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:21,570 a lot

1530 00:29:21,570 --> 00:29:21,990 and it

1531 00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:22,370 requires

1532 00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:22,910 a lot

1533 00:29:22,910 --> 00:29:23,170 because

1534 00:29:23,170 --> 00:29:23,350 it

1535 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:23,690 shouldn't

1536 00:29:23,690 --> 00:29:24,030 be

1537 00:29:24,030 --> 00:29:24,710 confrontation

1538 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:25,310 that

1539 00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:25,530 the

1540 00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:26,750 price

1541 00:29:26,750 --> 00:29:27,010 for

1542 00:29:27,010 --> 00:29:27,570 confrontation

1543 00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:27,930 should

1544 00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:28,110 be

1545 00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:28,710 too

1546 00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:29,070 high

1547 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:29,290 for

1548 00:29:29,290 --> 00:29:29,370 the

1549 00:29:29,370 --> 00:29:29,670 state

1550 00:29:29,670 --> 00:29:29,930 that

1551 00:29:29,930 --> 00:29:30,110 they

1552 00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:30,390 should

1553 00:29:30,390 --> 00:29:32,130 wait

1554 00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:32,590 out

1555 00:29:32,590 --> 00:29:32,810 or

1556 00:29:32,810 --> 00:29:33,090 wait

1557 00:29:33,090 --> 00:29:33,290 in

1558 00:29:33,290 --> 00:29:33,890 winter

1559 00:29:33,890 --> 00:29:34,390 or

1560 00:29:34,390 --> 00:29:34,810 cut

1561 00:29:34,810 --> 00:29:34,970 the

1562 00:29:34,970 --> 00:29:35,430 current

1563 00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:36,050 or

1564 00:29:36,050 --> 00:29:37,490 wait

1565 00:29:37,490 --> 00:29:37,850 for

1566 00:29:37,850 --> 00:29:37,970 the

1567 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:38,310 opinion

1568 00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:39,350 turns

1569 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:39,770 or

1570 00:29:39,770 --> 00:29:40,210 something

1571 00:29:40,210 --> 00:29:40,730 like that

1572 00:29:40,730 --> 00:29:40,950 before

1573 00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:41,170 they

1574 00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:41,390 can

1575 00:29:41,390 --> 00:29:41,790 do

1576 00:29:41,790 --> 00:29:42,070 it

1577 00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:42,450 but

1578 00:29:42,450 --> 00:29:43,370 but

1579 00:29:43,370 --> 00:29:43,510 it

1580 00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:43,810 can

1581 00:29:43,810 --> 00:29:44,290 always

1582 00:29:44,290 --> 00:29:46,410 find

1583 00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:46,950 a way

1584 00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:47,530 to

1585 00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:47,970 make

1586 00:29:47,970 --> 00:29:48,970 the

1587 00:29:48,970 --> 00:29:50,250 repressive

1588 00:29:50,250 --> 00:29:50,890 hit

1589 00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:52,290 harder

1590 00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:53,390 for

1591 00:29:53,390 --> 00:29:53,630 them

1592 00:29:53,630 --> 00:30:03,310 and

1593 00:30:03,310 --> 00:30:03,430 then

1594 00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:03,770 we

1595 00:30:03,770 --> 00:30:04,170 come in

1596 00:30:04,170 --> 00:30:04,330 on

1597 00:30:04,330 --> 00:30:04,590 this

1598 00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:06,650 classic

1599 00:30:06,650 --> 00:30:07,650 work

1600 00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:08,570 that

1601 00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:09,070 is

1602 00:30:09,070 --> 00:30:10,250 temporary

1603 00:30:10,250 --> 00:30:11,490 autonomous

1604 00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:12,530 zones

1605 00:30:12,530 --> 00:30:13,130 that

1606 00:30:13,130 --> 00:30:13,530 is

1607 00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:14,150 his

1608 00:30:14,150 --> 00:30:15,810 yes

1609 00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:15,970 but

1610 00:30:15,970 --> 00:30:16,210 that

1611 00:30:16,210 --> 00:30:16,750 grows

1612 00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:17,210 forward

1613 00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:17,550 from

1614 00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:17,790 this

1615 00:30:17,790 --> 00:30:18,270 and

1616 00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:18,990 I

1617 00:30:18,990 --> 00:30:19,350 think

1618 00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:21,290 again

1619 00:30:21,290 --> 00:30:24,170 and again

1620 00:30:24,170 --> 00:30:24,730 that

1621 00:30:24,730 --> 00:30:25,450 I

1622 00:30:25,450 --> 00:30:25,930 think

1623 00:30:25,930 --> 00:30:26,370 that

1624 00:30:26,370 --> 00:30:26,630 I

1625 00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:26,770 think

1626 00:30:26,770 --> 00:30:26,870 that

1627 00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:26,970 it

1628 00:30:26,970 --> 00:30:27,270 is

1629 00:30:27,270 --> 00:30:27,370 that

1630 00:30:27,370 --> 00:30:27,450 is

1631 00:30:27,450 --> 00:30:27,790 the

1632 00:30:27,790 --> 00:30:28,650 optimism

1633 00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:29,090 that

1634 00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:29,230 is

1635 00:30:29,230 --> 00:30:29,410 very

1636 00:30:29,410 --> 00:30:29,770 much

1637 00:30:29,770 --> 00:30:30,410 post

1638 00:30:30,410 --> 00:30:31,070 structural

1639 00:30:31,070 --> 00:30:33,010 optimism

1640 00:30:33,010 --> 00:30:33,550 that

1641 00:30:33,550 --> 00:30:33,710 is

1642 00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:34,210 the

1643 00:30:34,210 --> 00:30:34,570 desire

1644 00:30:34,570 --> 00:30:34,750 in

1645 00:30:34,750 --> 00:30:34,830 the

1646 00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:35,110 center

1647 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:35,350 the

1648 00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:35,930 creativity

1649 00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:36,430 in

1650 00:30:36,430 --> 00:30:36,470 the

1651 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:36,790 center

1652 00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:36,990 the

1653 00:30:36,990 --> 00:30:37,550 creation

1654 00:30:37,550 --> 00:30:37,850 in

1655 00:30:37,850 --> 00:30:37,930 the

1656 00:30:37,930 --> 00:30:38,270 center

1657 00:30:38,270 --> 00:30:38,470 and

1658 00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:38,890 everything

1659 00:30:38,890 --> 00:30:39,230 is

1660 00:30:39,230 --> 00:30:40,350 what

1661 00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:41,110 we

1662 00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:41,490 can

1663 00:30:41,490 --> 00:30:42,030 do

1664 00:30:42,030 --> 00:30:42,790 but

1665 00:30:42,790 --> 00:30:43,350 at the same time

1666 00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:43,710 it is

1667 00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:44,470 give up

1668 00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:44,750 the

1669 00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:45,170 big

1670 00:30:45,170 --> 00:30:46,090 challenge

1671 00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:47,230 to

1672 00:30:47,230 --> 00:30:47,750 challenge

1673 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:47,890 the

1674 00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:48,250 power

1675 00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:48,630 to

1676 00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:49,190 organize

1677 00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:50,790 the

1678 00:30:50,790 --> 00:30:51,270 whole

1679 00:30:51,290 --> 00:30:52,130 society

1680 00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:52,570 blind

1681 00:30:52,570 --> 00:30:53,090 majority

1682 00:30:53,090 --> 00:30:53,610 or

1683 00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:54,010 organize

1684 00:30:54,010 --> 00:30:54,250 the

1685 00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:54,450 working

1686 00:30:54,450 --> 00:30:54,850 class

1687 00:30:54,850 --> 00:30:55,150 there

1688 00:30:55,150 --> 00:30:55,370 there

1689 00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:55,770 are

1690 00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:56,210 not

1691 00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:56,510 such

1692 00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:57,370 expectations

1693 00:30:57,370 --> 00:30:57,750 there

1694 00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:58,110 but

1695 00:30:58,110 --> 00:30:59,270 Hakenberg

1696 00:30:59,270 --> 00:30:59,890 can

1697 00:30:59,890 --> 00:31:00,050 you

1698 00:31:00,050 --> 00:31:00,630 use

1699 00:31:00,630 --> 00:31:01,290 if

1700 00:31:01,290 --> 00:31:01,490 you

1701 00:31:01,490 --> 00:31:01,750 are

1702 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:02,130 three

1703 00:31:02,130 --> 00:31:02,730 people

1704 00:31:02,730 --> 00:31:03,690 or

1705 00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:04,010 three

1706 00:31:04,010 --> 00:31:04,530 million

1707 00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:04,790 it

1708 00:31:04,790 --> 00:31:05,090 does

1709 00:31:05,090 --> 00:31:05,370 not

1710 00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:05,870 matter

1711 00:31:05,870 --> 00:31:06,870 for

1712 00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:07,250 his

1713 00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:07,770 how

1714 00:31:07,770 --> 00:31:08,270 that

1715 00:31:08,270 --> 00:31:09,850 scaling

1716 00:31:09,850 --> 00:31:10,430 looks

1717 00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:11,050 but

1718 00:31:11,050 --> 00:31:11,570 it is

1719 00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:12,670 important

1720 00:31:12,670 --> 00:31:13,510 just

1721 00:31:13,510 --> 00:31:14,830 that

1722 00:31:14,830 --> 00:31:14,950 it

1723 00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:15,250 happens

1724 00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:15,710 that

1725 00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:15,850 you

1726 00:31:15,850 --> 00:31:16,010 see

1727 00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:16,110 the

1728 00:31:16,110 --> 00:31:16,710 possibilities

1729 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:17,150 in

1730 00:31:17,150 --> 00:31:17,630 the

1731 00:31:17,630 --> 00:31:18,870 doing

1732 00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:19,650 now

1733 00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:20,710 and

1734 00:31:21,290 --> 00:31:21,610 so

1735 00:31:21,610 --> 00:31:21,890 so

1736 00:31:21,890 --> 00:31:22,070 what

1737 00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:22,190 is

1738 00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:22,410 a

1739 00:31:22,410 --> 00:31:22,810 temporary

1740 00:31:22,810 --> 00:31:23,650 autonomous

1741 00:31:23,650 --> 00:31:24,070 zone

1742 00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:26,210 yes

1743 00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:26,410 but

1744 00:31:26,410 --> 00:31:26,750 it is

1745 00:31:26,750 --> 00:31:27,650 temporary

1746 00:31:27,650 --> 00:31:28,070 it is

1747 00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:28,590 temporary

1748 00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:28,910 that is

1749 00:31:28,910 --> 00:31:28,970 to say

1750 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:29,950 it has

1751 00:31:29,950 --> 00:31:30,210 like

1752 00:31:30,210 --> 00:31:30,570 a

1753 00:31:30,570 --> 00:31:30,790 beginning

1754 00:31:30,790 --> 00:31:30,990 and

1755 00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:31,210 end

1756 00:31:31,210 --> 00:31:31,410 it

1757 00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:31,710 appears

1758 00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:32,210 up

1759 00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:32,930 it

1760 00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:33,310 finds

1761 00:31:33,310 --> 00:31:33,490 a

1762 00:31:33,490 --> 00:31:33,810 gap

1763 00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:34,090 in

1764 00:31:34,090 --> 00:31:34,670 time

1765 00:31:34,670 --> 00:31:35,770 for

1766 00:31:35,770 --> 00:31:36,250 to

1767 00:31:36,250 --> 00:31:37,150 do

1768 00:31:37,150 --> 00:31:37,690 something

1769 00:31:37,690 --> 00:31:38,370 it

1770 00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:38,550 is

1771 00:31:38,550 --> 00:31:39,170 independent

1772 00:31:39,170 --> 00:31:39,510 or

1773 00:31:39,510 --> 00:31:40,050 autonomous

1774 00:31:40,050 --> 00:31:40,250 for

1775 00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:40,350 that

1776 00:31:40,350 --> 00:31:40,470 it

1777 00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:41,270 seeks

1778 00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:42,670 a

1779 00:31:42,670 --> 00:31:43,610 self-determination

1780 00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:43,890 some

1781 00:31:43,890 --> 00:31:44,070 kind of

1782 00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:45,070 self-governance

1783 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:46,010 some

1784 00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:46,310 kind

1785 00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:46,510 of

1786 00:31:46,510 --> 00:31:46,710 maybe

1787 00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:47,070 gift

1788 00:31:47,070 --> 00:31:47,210 and

1789 00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:47,790 economy

1790 00:31:47,790 --> 00:31:48,170 or

1791 00:31:48,170 --> 00:31:49,170 a

1792 00:31:49,170 --> 00:31:50,310 victim

1793 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:50,930 economy

1794 00:31:50,930 --> 00:31:51,130 over

1795 00:31:51,130 --> 00:31:51,270 the

1796 00:31:51,270 --> 00:31:51,770 surface

1797 00:31:51,770 --> 00:31:52,810 economy

1798 00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:53,810 and

1799 00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:54,070 it

1800 00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:54,370 is

1801 00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:54,690 a

1802 00:31:54,690 --> 00:31:55,590 zone

1803 00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:55,990 for

1804 00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:56,170 that

1805 00:31:56,170 --> 00:31:56,290 it

1806 00:31:56,290 --> 00:31:56,390 is

1807 00:31:56,390 --> 00:31:56,510 a

1808 00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:56,690 kind

1809 00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:57,650 of

1810 00:31:57,650 --> 00:31:58,070 maybe

1811 00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:58,590 social

1812 00:31:58,590 --> 00:31:59,550 distance

1813 00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:00,430 that

1814 00:32:00,430 --> 00:32:00,530 we

1815 00:32:00,530 --> 00:32:00,730 say

1816 00:32:00,730 --> 00:32:01,850 that

1817 00:32:01,850 --> 00:32:02,850 we

1818 00:32:02,850 --> 00:32:03,190 break

1819 00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:03,670 down

1820 00:32:03,670 --> 00:32:04,070 the

1821 00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:04,870 norms

1822 00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:05,250 that

1823 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:05,610 maybe

1824 00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:05,930 exist

1825 00:32:05,930 --> 00:32:06,170 in

1826 00:32:06,170 --> 00:32:06,250 the

1827 00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:06,450 majority

1828 00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:07,010 society

1829 00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:08,110 and

1830 00:32:08,110 --> 00:32:08,990 negotiate

1831 00:32:08,990 --> 00:32:09,350 them

1832 00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:09,770 create

1833 00:32:09,770 --> 00:32:10,090 new

1834 00:32:10,090 --> 00:32:10,810 social

1835 00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:12,290 norms

1836 00:32:12,290 --> 00:32:13,130 and

1837 00:32:13,130 --> 00:32:13,290 it

1838 00:32:13,290 --> 00:32:13,650 often

1839 00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:13,970 happens

1840 00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:14,250 on

1841 00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:14,670 a

1842 00:32:14,670 --> 00:32:16,090 limited

1843 00:32:16,090 --> 00:32:16,830 place

1844 00:32:16,830 --> 00:32:17,430 that

1845 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:17,650 it

1846 00:32:17,650 --> 00:32:18,370 can

1847 00:32:18,370 --> 00:32:18,690 be

1848 00:32:18,690 --> 00:32:19,110 an

1849 00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:20,990 area

1850 00:32:20,990 --> 00:32:21,110 of

1851 00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:21,610 conflict

1852 00:32:21,610 --> 00:32:22,110 where

1853 00:32:22,110 --> 00:32:22,610 this

1854 00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:23,110 is

1855 00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:23,610 coming

1856 00:32:23,610 --> 00:32:24,110 together

1857 00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:24,610 and

1858 00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:25,110 this

1859 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:25,610 is

1860 00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:26,110 happening

1861 00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:26,610 and

1862 00:32:26,610 --> 00:32:27,110 then

1863 00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:27,610 it

1864 00:32:27,610 --> 00:32:28,110 is

1865 00:32:28,110 --> 00:32:28,610 shaken

1866 00:32:28,610 --> 00:32:29,110 so

1867 00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:29,610 I think

1868 00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:30,110 the concept of

1869 00:32:30,110 --> 00:32:30,610 situationists

1870 00:32:30,610 --> 00:32:31,110 situations

1871 00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:31,610 is

1872 00:32:31,610 --> 00:32:32,110 quite

1873 00:32:32,110 --> 00:32:33,610 similar

1874 00:32:33,610 --> 00:32:34,110 like

1875 00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:34,610 how

1876 00:32:34,610 --> 00:32:35,110 to

1877 00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:35,610 create

1878 00:32:35,610 --> 00:32:36,110 a

1879 00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:37,110 situation

1880 00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:37,610 like

1881 00:32:37,610 --> 00:32:38,110 an

1882 00:32:38,110 --> 00:32:38,610 event

1883 00:32:38,610 --> 00:32:39,110 where

1884 00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:39,610 this

1885 00:32:39,610 --> 00:32:40,110 acting

1886 00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:41,110 play

1887 00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:42,110 breaks

1888 00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:42,610 where

1889 00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:43,110 something

1890 00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:43,610 else

1891 00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:45,110 becomes

1892 00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:45,610 possible

1893 00:32:45,610 --> 00:32:46,110 and

1894 00:32:46,110 --> 00:32:46,610 where

1895 00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:47,110 other

1896 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:47,610 relations

1897 00:32:47,610 --> 00:32:48,110 arise

1898 00:32:48,110 --> 00:32:49,110 and

1899 00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:49,610 that is

1900 00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:50,110 how

1901 00:32:50,110 --> 00:32:51,110 what

1902 00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:51,610 Hakeem

1903 00:32:51,610 --> 00:32:52,110 Bey

1904 00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:52,310 also

1905 00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:52,570 he

1906 00:32:52,570 --> 00:32:53,350 says

1907 00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:53,490 that

1908 00:32:53,490 --> 00:32:53,610 the

1909 00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:54,010 smallest

1910 00:32:54,010 --> 00:32:54,610 part

1911 00:32:54,610 --> 00:32:55,110 can

1912 00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:55,310 be

1913 00:32:55,310 --> 00:32:55,570 like

1914 00:32:55,570 --> 00:32:55,950 three

1915 00:32:55,950 --> 00:32:56,550 people

1916 00:32:56,550 --> 00:32:56,870 who

1917 00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:57,070 have

1918 00:32:57,070 --> 00:32:57,250 a

1919 00:32:57,250 --> 00:32:57,610 dinner

1920 00:32:57,610 --> 00:32:58,090 together

1921 00:32:58,090 --> 00:32:58,270 and

1922 00:32:58,270 --> 00:32:58,610 start

1923 00:32:58,610 --> 00:32:59,350 who

1924 00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:59,550 may

1925 00:32:59,550 --> 00:32:59,750 not

1926 00:32:59,750 --> 00:33:00,050 know

1927 00:33:00,050 --> 00:33:00,270 each

1928 00:33:00,270 --> 00:33:00,430 other

1929 00:33:00,430 --> 00:33:00,570 who

1930 00:33:00,570 --> 00:33:00,810 meets

1931 00:33:00,810 --> 00:33:00,990 over

1932 00:33:00,990 --> 00:33:01,350 dinner

1933 00:33:01,350 --> 00:33:01,550 and

1934 00:33:01,550 --> 00:33:01,790 start

1935 00:33:01,790 --> 00:33:02,250 talking

1936 00:33:02,250 --> 00:33:02,470 in

1937 00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:02,710 a

1938 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:03,010 way

1939 00:33:03,010 --> 00:33:03,190 and

1940 00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:04,110 break

1941 00:33:04,110 --> 00:33:04,350 down

1942 00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:04,790 boundaries

1943 00:33:04,790 --> 00:33:05,010 and

1944 00:33:05,010 --> 00:33:05,710 expectations

1945 00:33:05,710 --> 00:33:06,350 around

1946 00:33:06,350 --> 00:33:07,490 each

1947 00:33:07,490 --> 00:33:07,830 other

1948 00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:08,310 and

1949 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:09,010 create

1950 00:33:09,010 --> 00:33:09,290 some

1951 00:33:09,290 --> 00:33:09,890 community

1952 00:33:09,890 --> 00:33:10,270 in

1953 00:33:10,270 --> 00:33:10,390 it

1954 00:33:10,390 --> 00:33:11,350 small

1955 00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:11,670 just

1956 00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:11,870 for

1957 00:33:11,870 --> 00:33:12,050 an

1958 00:33:12,050 --> 00:33:12,450 evening

1959 00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:12,910 the

1960 00:33:12,910 --> 00:33:13,310 dinner

1961 00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:14,050 does not

1962 00:33:14,050 --> 00:33:14,070 need

1963 00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:14,950 laws

1964 00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:15,570 that

1965 00:33:15,570 --> 00:33:16,210 regulates

1966 00:33:16,210 --> 00:33:16,410 it

1967 00:33:16,410 --> 00:33:17,110 it

1968 00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:17,410 does not

1969 00:33:17,410 --> 00:33:17,530 need

1970 00:33:17,530 --> 00:33:17,670 a

1971 00:33:17,670 --> 00:33:18,110 state

1972 00:33:18,110 --> 00:33:18,850 and

1973 00:33:18,850 --> 00:33:18,990 it

1974 00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:19,390 does not

1975 00:33:19,390 --> 00:33:19,550 need

1976 00:33:19,550 --> 00:33:20,350 an

1977 00:33:20,350 --> 00:33:21,470 economic

1978 00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:22,510 exchange

1979 00:33:22,510 --> 00:33:23,430 in

1980 00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:25,250 market

1981 00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:26,270 economic

1982 00:33:26,270 --> 00:33:27,150 terms

1983 00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:28,250 it is

1984 00:33:28,250 --> 00:33:28,370 a

1985 00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:28,790 offering

1986 00:33:28,790 --> 00:33:29,010 in

1987 00:33:29,010 --> 00:33:29,170 some

1988 00:33:29,170 --> 00:33:29,450 way

1989 00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:30,670 when

1990 00:33:30,670 --> 00:33:30,810 I

1991 00:33:30,810 --> 00:33:31,190 read

1992 00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:31,410 this

1993 00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:32,050 for the

1994 00:33:32,050 --> 00:33:32,290 first time

1995 00:33:32,290 --> 00:33:32,570 in the

1996 00:33:32,570 --> 00:33:33,770 90's

1997 00:33:33,770 --> 00:33:34,450 I thought

1998 00:33:34,450 --> 00:33:35,870 it is

1999 00:33:35,870 --> 00:33:36,750 role-playing

2000 00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:38,150 as he

2001 00:33:38,150 --> 00:33:38,610 describes

2002 00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:39,330 it is

2003 00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:39,710 live

2004 00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:40,010 it is

2005 00:33:40,010 --> 00:33:40,230 Leone

2006 00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:40,710 role-playing

2007 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:41,030 it is

2008 00:33:41,030 --> 00:33:41,330 like

2009 00:33:41,330 --> 00:33:41,610 that

2010 00:33:41,610 --> 00:33:41,770 is

2011 00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:42,410 temporary

2012 00:33:42,410 --> 00:33:42,790 that

2013 00:33:42,790 --> 00:33:43,750 creates

2014 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:44,130 these

2015 00:33:44,130 --> 00:33:45,470 looks

2016 00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:45,950 in

2017 00:33:45,950 --> 00:33:46,510 reality

2018 00:33:46,510 --> 00:33:47,310 builds

2019 00:33:47,310 --> 00:33:47,510 up

2020 00:33:47,510 --> 00:33:47,850 new

2021 00:33:47,850 --> 00:33:48,390 stories

2022 00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:48,710 new

2023 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:48,970 worlds

2024 00:33:48,970 --> 00:33:50,130 new

2025 00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:50,850 relationships

2026 00:33:50,850 --> 00:33:51,410 new

2027 00:33:51,410 --> 00:33:51,890 roles

2028 00:33:51,890 --> 00:33:53,090 that

2029 00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:53,590 can

2030 00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:54,970 live

2031 00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:56,370 in

2032 00:33:56,370 --> 00:33:56,550 this

2033 00:33:56,550 --> 00:33:57,010 immediate

2034 00:33:57,010 --> 00:33:57,610 way

2035 00:33:57,610 --> 00:33:58,150 together

2036 00:33:58,150 --> 00:33:59,110 and

2037 00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:59,430 to

2038 00:33:59,430 --> 00:34:00,530 think

2039 00:34:00,530 --> 00:34:00,930 that

2040 00:34:00,930 --> 00:34:01,970 there is

2041 00:34:01,970 --> 00:34:02,110 a

2042 00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:02,530 political

2043 00:34:02,530 --> 00:34:03,690 dimension

2044 00:34:03,690 --> 00:34:04,410 at all

2045 00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:05,070 in

2046 00:34:05,070 --> 00:34:05,270 that

2047 00:34:05,270 --> 00:34:06,510 it

2048 00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:07,230 was

2049 00:34:07,230 --> 00:34:07,950 fascinating

2050 00:34:07,950 --> 00:34:09,210 he

2051 00:34:09,210 --> 00:34:09,630 talks

2052 00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:09,989 about

2053 00:34:09,989 --> 00:34:11,070 there are

2054 00:34:11,070 --> 00:34:11,670 historical

2055 00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:12,290 autonomous

2056 00:34:12,290 --> 00:34:12,850 zones

2057 00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:13,550 that

2058 00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:13,790 this

2059 00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:13,909 is

2060 00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:14,190 something

2061 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:14,550 that

2062 00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:14,730 has

2063 00:34:14,730 --> 00:34:14,750 not

2064 00:34:14,750 --> 00:34:14,870 only

2065 00:34:14,870 --> 00:34:15,230 occurred

2066 00:34:15,230 --> 00:34:15,590 now

2067 00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:15,810 but

2068 00:34:15,810 --> 00:34:16,170 always

2069 00:34:16,170 --> 00:34:16,409 and

2070 00:34:16,409 --> 00:34:16,730 they

2071 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:18,130 want

2072 00:34:18,130 --> 00:34:18,210 to

2073 00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:18,690 return

2074 00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:19,690 and

2075 00:34:19,690 --> 00:34:19,850 then

2076 00:34:19,850 --> 00:34:20,130 you can

2077 00:34:20,130 --> 00:34:20,690 see

2078 00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:21,389 yes

2079 00:34:21,389 --> 00:34:21,530 but

2080 00:34:21,530 --> 00:34:21,690 the

2081 00:34:21,690 --> 00:34:22,130 mediation

2082 00:34:22,130 --> 00:34:22,489 week

2083 00:34:22,489 --> 00:34:22,710 in

2084 00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:23,330 Visby

2085 00:34:23,330 --> 00:34:23,750 is

2086 00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:23,929 a

2087 00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:24,130 such

2088 00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:24,389 there

2089 00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:25,070 event

2090 00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:25,409 where

2091 00:34:25,409 --> 00:34:25,989 the

2092 00:34:25,989 --> 00:34:26,270 city

2093 00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:26,610 turns

2094 00:34:26,610 --> 00:34:26,810 up

2095 00:34:26,810 --> 00:34:26,929 and

2096 00:34:26,929 --> 00:34:27,270 down

2097 00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:27,590 is

2098 00:34:27,590 --> 00:34:27,830 like

2099 00:34:27,830 --> 00:34:28,210 completely

2100 00:34:28,210 --> 00:34:28,590 different

2101 00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:29,270 and

2102 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:29,690 people

2103 00:34:29,690 --> 00:34:30,770 come

2104 00:34:30,770 --> 00:34:31,130 like

2105 00:34:31,130 --> 00:34:31,510 from

2106 00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:31,969 near

2107 00:34:31,969 --> 00:34:32,130 and

2108 00:34:32,130 --> 00:34:32,449 far

2109 00:34:32,449 --> 00:34:32,989 and

2110 00:34:32,989 --> 00:34:33,630 clash

2111 00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:33,770 in

2112 00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:34,130 another

2113 00:34:34,130 --> 00:34:34,409 way

2114 00:34:34,409 --> 00:34:34,550 and

2115 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:34,989 play

2116 00:34:34,989 --> 00:34:35,610 something

2117 00:34:35,610 --> 00:34:36,270 else

2118 00:34:36,270 --> 00:34:36,510 that

2119 00:34:36,510 --> 00:34:36,770 it

2120 00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:37,810 is

2121 00:34:37,810 --> 00:34:38,350 just

2122 00:34:38,350 --> 00:34:38,850 like

2123 00:34:38,850 --> 00:34:39,250 it is

2124 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:39,409 like

2125 00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:39,530 a

2126 00:34:39,530 --> 00:34:39,790 live

2127 00:34:39,790 --> 00:34:39,989 role

2128 00:34:39,989 --> 00:34:40,510 game

2129 00:34:40,510 --> 00:34:40,969 yes

2130 00:34:40,969 --> 00:34:41,409 it is

2131 00:34:41,409 --> 00:34:41,650 the

2132 00:34:41,650 --> 00:34:42,270 carnival

2133 00:34:42,270 --> 00:34:42,770 as

2134 00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:43,429 some

2135 00:34:43,429 --> 00:34:43,650 kind

2136 00:34:43,650 --> 00:34:43,750 of

2137 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:44,130 model

2138 00:34:44,130 --> 00:34:44,469 for

2139 00:34:44,469 --> 00:34:46,010 co-existence

2140 00:34:46,010 --> 00:34:46,429 yes

2141 00:34:46,429 --> 00:34:47,469 while

2142 00:34:47,469 --> 00:34:47,810 it

2143 00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:48,469 has

2144 00:34:48,469 --> 00:34:48,710 its

2145 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:50,409 institutionalized

2146 00:34:50,409 --> 00:34:50,830 form

2147 00:34:50,830 --> 00:34:51,190 it

2148 00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:51,330 has

2149 00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:51,690 to

2150 00:34:51,690 --> 00:34:52,130 exist

2151 00:34:52,130 --> 00:34:52,510 a

2152 00:34:52,510 --> 00:34:53,630 week

2153 00:34:53,630 --> 00:34:53,870 per

2154 00:34:53,870 --> 00:34:54,170 year

2155 00:34:54,170 --> 00:34:54,830 in

2156 00:34:54,830 --> 00:34:55,170 this

2157 00:34:55,170 --> 00:34:55,690 space

2158 00:34:55,690 --> 00:34:56,030 and

2159 00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:56,850 you

2160 00:34:56,850 --> 00:34:57,050 still

2161 00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:57,350 have

2162 00:34:57,350 --> 00:34:57,630 to

2163 00:34:57,630 --> 00:34:57,730 go

2164 00:34:57,730 --> 00:34:57,970 in

2165 00:34:57,970 --> 00:34:58,210 and

2166 00:34:58,210 --> 00:34:59,150 buy

2167 00:34:59,150 --> 00:34:59,410 your

2168 00:34:59,410 --> 00:34:59,690 meal

2169 00:34:59,690 --> 00:34:59,990 and

2170 00:34:59,990 --> 00:35:00,310 your

2171 00:35:00,310 --> 00:35:00,750 boat

2172 00:35:00,750 --> 00:35:01,170 ticket

2173 00:35:01,170 --> 00:35:01,550 but

2174 00:35:01,550 --> 00:35:01,830 it is

2175 00:35:01,830 --> 00:35:02,150 still

2176 00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:03,210 for him

2177 00:35:03,210 --> 00:35:03,490 it is not

2178 00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:03,810 that

2179 00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:04,710 everything

2180 00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:05,170 should

2181 00:35:05,170 --> 00:35:05,270 be

2182 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:06,010 postponed

2183 00:35:06,010 --> 00:35:06,530 at the

2184 00:35:06,530 --> 00:35:06,910 same time

2185 00:35:06,910 --> 00:35:07,170 but

2186 00:35:07,170 --> 00:35:07,510 it is

2187 00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:08,130 to see

2188 00:35:08,130 --> 00:35:08,510 what

2189 00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:08,850 a

2190 00:35:08,850 --> 00:35:10,310 place

2191 00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:10,510 a

2192 00:35:10,510 --> 00:35:11,190 chance

2193 00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:12,170 a

2194 00:35:12,170 --> 00:35:12,930 combination

2195 00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:13,310 of

2196 00:35:13,310 --> 00:35:13,630 people

2197 00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:13,850 can

2198 00:35:13,850 --> 00:35:14,510 offer

2199 00:35:14,510 --> 00:35:14,710 and

2200 00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:14,810 what

2201 00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:14,990 you

2202 00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:15,210 can

2203 00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:15,770 create

2204 00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:16,090 in

2205 00:35:16,090 --> 00:35:16,590 what

2206 00:35:16,590 --> 00:35:17,730 Bay

2207 00:35:17,730 --> 00:35:18,250 writes

2208 00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:18,450 something

2209 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:18,870 I

2210 00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:19,030 don't

2211 00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:19,170 know

2212 00:35:19,170 --> 00:35:19,270 if

2213 00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:19,390 it

2214 00:35:19,390 --> 00:35:19,530 is

2215 00:35:19,530 --> 00:35:19,810 true

2216 00:35:19,810 --> 00:35:19,950 because

2217 00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:20,010 I

2218 00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:20,050 am

2219 00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:20,150 not

2220 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:20,250 a

2221 00:35:20,250 --> 00:35:20,650 historian

2222 00:35:20,650 --> 00:35:20,910 but

2223 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:21,250 he

2224 00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:21,570 writes

2225 00:35:21,570 --> 00:35:21,850 that

2226 00:35:21,850 --> 00:35:22,610 in

2227 00:35:22,610 --> 00:35:22,690 the

2228 00:35:22,690 --> 00:35:22,930 middle

2229 00:35:22,930 --> 00:35:23,330 time

2230 00:35:23,330 --> 00:35:24,030 every

2231 00:35:24,030 --> 00:35:24,790 third

2232 00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:26,030 day

2233 00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:26,770 some

2234 00:35:26,770 --> 00:35:26,990 kind

2235 00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:27,110 of

2236 00:35:27,110 --> 00:35:28,070 holiday

2237 00:35:28,070 --> 00:35:28,530 day

2238 00:35:28,530 --> 00:35:28,890 some

2239 00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:29,150 kind

2240 00:35:29,150 --> 00:35:29,250 of

2241 00:35:29,250 --> 00:35:29,630 celebration

2242 00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:30,550 and

2243 00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:30,870 it is

2244 00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:31,110 also

2245 00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:31,470 it is

2246 00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:31,690 a

2247 00:35:31,690 --> 00:35:31,870 pretty

2248 00:35:31,870 --> 00:35:32,230 cool

2249 00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:32,670 picture

2250 00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:32,850 of

2251 00:35:32,850 --> 00:35:32,970 how

2252 00:35:32,970 --> 00:35:33,110 this

2253 00:35:33,110 --> 00:35:33,330 could

2254 00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:34,050 expand

2255 00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:34,870 that

2256 00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:35,610 okay

2257 00:35:35,610 --> 00:35:35,770 we

2258 00:35:35,770 --> 00:35:35,910 have

2259 00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:36,170 two

2260 00:35:36,170 --> 00:35:36,490 days

2261 00:35:36,490 --> 00:35:36,890 holiday

2262 00:35:36,890 --> 00:35:37,270 but

2263 00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:37,490 can

2264 00:35:37,490 --> 00:35:37,630 we

2265 00:35:37,630 --> 00:35:37,850 have

2266 00:35:37,850 --> 00:35:39,270 three

2267 00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:39,610 days

2268 00:35:39,610 --> 00:35:39,910 holiday

2269 00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:40,090 can

2270 00:35:40,090 --> 00:35:40,170 we

2271 00:35:40,170 --> 00:35:40,250 have

2272 00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:40,510 four

2273 00:35:40,510 --> 00:35:40,810 days

2274 00:35:40,810 --> 00:35:41,090 holiday

2275 00:35:41,090 --> 00:35:41,270 how

2276 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:41,410 can

2277 00:35:41,410 --> 00:35:41,850 we

2278 00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:42,390 stretch

2279 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:42,710 out

2280 00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:43,070 this

2281 00:35:43,070 --> 00:35:44,310 time

2282 00:35:48,450 --> 00:36:02,590 but

2283 00:36:02,590 --> 00:36:16,070 there

2284 00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:16,390 are

2285 00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:16,790 so

2286 00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:17,350 many

2287 00:36:17,350 --> 00:36:17,870 examples

2288 00:36:17,870 --> 00:36:18,030 of

2289 00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:18,230 holidays

2290 00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:18,350 and

2291 00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:18,430 holidays

2292 00:36:18,430 --> 00:36:18,450 and

2293 00:36:18,450 --> 00:36:18,570 the

2294 00:36:18,570 --> 00:36:18,930 passion

2295 00:36:18,930 --> 00:36:19,250 is

2296 00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:19,730 a

2297 00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:20,750 typical

2298 00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:22,190 temporary

2299 00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:23,210 autonomous

2300 00:36:23,210 --> 00:36:23,790 zone

2301 00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:24,170 but

2302 00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:25,210 it has

2303 00:36:25,210 --> 00:36:25,490 also

2304 00:36:25,490 --> 00:36:25,670 been

2305 00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:26,010 very

2306 00:36:26,010 --> 00:36:26,530 popular

2307 00:36:26,530 --> 00:36:26,950 not

2308 00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:27,170 just

2309 00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:27,570 among

2310 00:36:27,570 --> 00:36:28,650 actors

2311 00:36:28,650 --> 00:36:29,550 but

2312 00:36:29,550 --> 00:36:29,950 also

2313 00:36:29,950 --> 00:36:30,310 among

2314 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:31,170 artists

2315 00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:32,210 that

2316 00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:33,270 it is

2317 00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:33,550 therefore

2318 00:36:33,550 --> 00:36:33,770 when

2319 00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:34,270 the

2320 00:36:34,270 --> 00:36:34,870 text

2321 00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:35,290 just

2322 00:36:35,290 --> 00:36:35,970 continues

2323 00:36:35,970 --> 00:36:36,170 to

2324 00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:36,570 exist

2325 00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:37,490 and

2326 00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:38,730 is

2327 00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:38,750 read

2328 00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:39,190 again

2329 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:39,650 and again

2330 00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:40,250 so

2331 00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:41,050 students

2332 00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:42,130 occupy

2333 00:36:42,130 --> 00:36:43,410 their

2334 00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:44,110 university

2335 00:36:44,110 --> 00:36:45,030 or

2336 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:46,410 it happens

2337 00:36:46,410 --> 00:36:46,750 in

2338 00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:47,270 tent

2339 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:47,810 conditions

2340 00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:48,430 outside

2341 00:36:48,430 --> 00:36:49,190 the

2342 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:49,930 university

2343 00:36:49,930 --> 00:36:50,430 or

2344 00:36:50,430 --> 00:36:51,370 something

2345 00:36:51,370 --> 00:36:51,830 like that

2346 00:36:51,830 --> 00:36:52,090 so

2347 00:36:52,090 --> 00:36:53,270 so

2348 00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:53,930 this

2349 00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:54,570 text

2350 00:36:54,570 --> 00:36:55,050 will be

2351 00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:55,710 read

2352 00:36:55,710 --> 00:36:56,250 again

2353 00:36:56,250 --> 00:36:56,550 because

2354 00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:56,830 everyone

2355 00:36:56,830 --> 00:36:57,350 lives

2356 00:36:57,350 --> 00:36:57,670 in

2357 00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:58,050 a

2358 00:36:58,050 --> 00:36:59,470 different

2359 00:36:59,470 --> 00:36:59,990 way

2360 00:36:59,990 --> 00:37:00,770 I

2361 00:37:00,770 --> 00:37:01,730 remember

2362 00:37:01,730 --> 00:37:02,070 the

2363 00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:02,550 globalization

2364 00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:03,470 movement

2365 00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:03,870 I had

2366 00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:04,210 a

2367 00:37:04,210 --> 00:37:05,050 friend

2368 00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:05,410 from

2369 00:37:05,410 --> 00:37:05,470 the

2370 00:37:05,470 --> 00:37:05,710 German

2371 00:37:05,710 --> 00:37:06,070 newspaper

2372 00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:06,870 Wildcat

2373 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:07,150 up

2374 00:37:07,150 --> 00:37:07,370 on

2375 00:37:07,370 --> 00:37:07,950 visit

2376 00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:08,990 and he

2377 00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:09,790 had

2378 00:37:09,790 --> 00:37:09,950 become

2379 00:37:09,950 --> 00:37:10,330 active

2380 00:37:10,330 --> 00:37:10,610 under

2381 00:37:10,610 --> 00:37:10,690 the

2382 00:37:10,690 --> 00:37:10,930 house

2383 00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:11,590 occupant

2384 00:37:11,590 --> 00:37:13,010 wave

2385 00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:13,370 in

2386 00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:13,990 Berlin

2387 00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:14,510 like

2388 00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:15,550 80-81

2389 00:37:15,550 --> 00:37:15,890 when

2390 00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:16,550 it was

2391 00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:17,290 thousands

2392 00:37:17,290 --> 00:37:17,570 of

2393 00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:17,970 buildings

2394 00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:18,230 that

2395 00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:18,730 he took

2396 00:37:18,730 --> 00:37:19,230 and people

2397 00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:19,730 all over

2398 00:37:19,730 --> 00:37:20,230 and he

2399 00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:20,730 was just

2400 00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:21,230 globalization

2401 00:37:21,230 --> 00:37:21,730 movement

2402 00:37:21,730 --> 00:37:22,230 it is

2403 00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:22,730 not a

2404 00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:23,230 movement

2405 00:37:23,230 --> 00:37:23,730 there

2406 00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:24,230 you go

2407 00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:24,730 and

2408 00:37:24,730 --> 00:37:25,230 do

2409 00:37:25,230 --> 00:37:25,730 your

2410 00:37:25,730 --> 00:37:26,230 demonstration

2411 00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:26,730 and then

2412 00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:27,230 you go

2413 00:37:27,230 --> 00:37:27,730 home to

2414 00:37:27,730 --> 00:37:28,230 your

2415 00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:28,730 everyday life

2416 00:37:28,730 --> 00:37:29,230 and go to

2417 00:37:29,230 --> 00:37:29,730 your

2418 00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:30,230 job

2419 00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:30,730 but

2420 00:37:30,730 --> 00:37:31,230 this

2421 00:37:31,230 --> 00:37:31,730 colored

2422 00:37:31,730 --> 00:37:32,230 off

2423 00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:32,730 in

2424 00:37:32,730 --> 00:37:33,230 our

2425 00:37:33,230 --> 00:37:33,730 way

2426 00:37:33,730 --> 00:37:34,230 to

2427 00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:34,730 live

2428 00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:35,230 day and

2429 00:37:35,230 --> 00:37:35,730 night

2430 00:37:35,730 --> 00:37:36,230 and

2431 00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:36,730 you

2432 00:37:36,730 --> 00:37:37,230 were

2433 00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:37,730 in

2434 00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:38,230 this

2435 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:38,730 it was

2436 00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:39,230 it is

2437 00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:39,730 like an

2438 00:37:39,730 --> 00:37:40,230 intensity

2439 00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:40,730 in it

2440 00:37:40,730 --> 00:37:41,230 that

2441 00:37:41,230 --> 00:37:41,730 signified

2442 00:37:41,730 --> 00:37:42,230 it

2443 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:42,730 so

2444 00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:43,230 I think

2445 00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:43,730 that

2446 00:37:43,730 --> 00:37:44,230 intensity

2447 00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:45,230 I have

2448 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:46,230 achieved

2449 00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:46,730 at

2450 00:37:46,730 --> 00:37:47,230 some

2451 00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:47,730 times

2452 00:37:47,730 --> 00:37:48,230 in

2453 00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:48,730 the

2454 00:37:48,730 --> 00:37:49,230 context

2455 00:37:49,230 --> 00:37:49,730 but

2456 00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:50,230 it is

2457 00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:50,730 not

2458 00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:51,230 at all

2459 00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:51,730 something

2460 00:37:51,730 --> 00:37:52,230 you

2461 00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:52,730 live

2462 00:37:52,730 --> 00:37:53,230 constantly

2463 00:37:53,230 --> 00:37:53,730 in

2464 00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:54,230 but

2465 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:54,730 it

2466 00:37:54,730 --> 00:37:55,230 has

2467 00:37:55,230 --> 00:37:55,730 happened

2468 00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:56,230 under

2469 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:56,730 just

2470 00:37:56,730 --> 00:37:57,230 such

2471 00:37:57,230 --> 00:37:57,730 special

2472 00:37:57,730 --> 00:37:59,230 circumstances

2473 00:37:59,230 --> 00:37:59,730 and

2474 00:37:59,730 --> 00:38:00,230 it

2475 00:38:00,230 --> 00:38:00,730 I can

2476 00:38:00,730 --> 00:38:01,230 think

2477 00:38:01,230 --> 00:38:01,730 but

2478 00:38:01,730 --> 00:38:02,230 people

2479 00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:02,730 experience

2480 00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:03,230 it

2481 00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:03,730 during

2482 00:38:03,730 --> 00:38:04,230 a

2483 00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:04,730 football

2484 00:38:04,730 --> 00:38:05,230 match

2485 00:38:05,230 --> 00:38:05,730 that

2486 00:38:05,730 --> 00:38:06,230 not

2487 00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:06,730 only

2488 00:38:06,730 --> 00:38:07,230 is

2489 00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:07,730 that

2490 00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:08,230 you

2491 00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:08,730 go

2492 00:38:08,730 --> 00:38:09,230 passively

2493 00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:09,730 and

2494 00:38:09,730 --> 00:38:10,230 consume

2495 00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:10,730 the

2496 00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:11,230 football

2497 00:38:11,230 --> 00:38:11,730 match

2498 00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:12,230 but

2499 00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:12,730 it

2500 00:38:12,730 --> 00:38:13,230 will

2501 00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:13,730 come

2502 00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:14,230 ultra

2503 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:14,730 you

2504 00:38:14,730 --> 00:38:15,230 do

2505 00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:15,730 your

2506 00:38:15,730 --> 00:38:16,230 tif

2507 00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:16,730 and

2508 00:38:16,730 --> 00:38:17,230 banderoll

2509 00:38:17,230 --> 00:38:17,730 are

2510 00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:18,230 standing

2511 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:18,730 there

2512 00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:19,230 it

2513 00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:19,730 will

2514 00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:20,230 be

2515 00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:20,730 something

2516 00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:21,230 other

2517 00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:21,730 than

2518 00:38:21,730 --> 00:38:22,230 the

2519 00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:22,730 the

2520 00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:23,230 everyday

2521 00:38:23,230 --> 00:38:23,730 time

2522 00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:24,230 that

2523 00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:24,730 occurs

2524 00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:25,230 a

2525 00:38:25,230 --> 00:38:25,730 carnival

2526 00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:26,230 time

2527 00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:27,230 it

2528 00:38:27,230 --> 00:38:27,730 is

2529 00:38:27,730 --> 00:38:28,230 very

2530 00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:28,730 interesting to

2531 00:38:28,730 --> 00:38:29,230 think

2532 00:38:29,230 --> 00:38:29,730 about

2533 00:38:29,730 --> 00:38:30,230 the

2534 00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:30,730 political

2535 00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:31,230 is

2536 00:38:31,230 --> 00:38:31,730 like

2537 00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:32,230 a

2538 00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:33,730 I

2539 00:38:33,730 --> 00:38:34,230 mean

2540 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:34,730 it

2541 00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:35,230 is

2542 00:38:35,230 --> 00:38:35,730 a

2543 00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:36,230 life

2544 00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:36,730 style

2545 00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:37,230 list

2546 00:38:37,230 --> 00:38:37,730 and

2547 00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:38,230 it

2548 00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:38,730 is true

2549 00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:39,230 because

2550 00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:39,730 it is

2551 00:38:39,730 --> 00:38:40,230 about

2552 00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:40,730 lifestyle

2553 00:38:40,730 --> 00:38:41,230 in

2554 00:38:41,230 --> 00:38:41,730 some

2555 00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:42,230 way

2556 00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:42,730 but

2557 00:38:42,730 --> 00:38:43,230 it

2558 00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:43,730 is also

2559 00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:44,230 to

2560 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:44,730 complain

2561 00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:45,230 left

2562 00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:45,730 to

2563 00:38:45,730 --> 00:38:46,230 be

2564 00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:46,730 a

2565 00:38:46,730 --> 00:38:47,230 hobby

2566 00:38:47,230 --> 00:38:47,730 which

2567 00:38:47,730 --> 00:38:48,230 is

2568 00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:48,730 not

2569 00:38:48,730 --> 00:38:49,230 dare

2570 00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:49,730 to

2571 00:38:49,730 --> 00:38:50,230 put

2572 00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:50,730 life

2573 00:38:50,730 --> 00:38:51,230 on

2574 00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:51,730 the

2575 00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:52,230 game

2576 00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:52,730 but

2577 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:53,230 goes

2578 00:38:53,230 --> 00:38:53,730 on

2579 00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:54,230 their

2580 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:54,730 meetings

2581 00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:55,230 two

2582 00:38:55,230 --> 00:38:55,730 meetings

2583 00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:56,230 a month

2584 00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:56,730 like

2585 00:38:56,730 --> 00:38:57,230 with

2586 00:38:57,230 --> 00:38:57,730 it

2587 00:38:57,730 --> 00:38:58,230 is

2588 00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:58,730 a

2589 00:38:58,730 --> 00:38:59,230 club

2590 00:38:59,230 --> 00:38:59,730 or

2591 00:38:59,730 --> 00:39:00,230 like

2592 00:39:00,230 --> 00:39:00,730 a

2593 00:39:00,730 --> 00:39:01,230 and

2594 00:39:01,230 --> 00:39:01,730 that

2595 00:39:01,730 --> 00:39:02,230 you

2596 00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:02,730 do

2597 00:39:02,730 --> 00:39:03,230 not

2598 00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:03,730 take

2599 00:39:03,730 --> 00:39:04,230 the

2600 00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:04,730 fight

2601 00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:05,230 seriously

2602 00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:05,730 even

2603 00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:06,230 if it

2604 00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:06,730 is

2605 00:39:06,730 --> 00:39:07,230 serious

2606 00:39:07,230 --> 00:39:07,730 it

2607 00:39:07,730 --> 00:39:08,230 is

2608 00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:08,730 like

2609 00:39:08,730 --> 00:39:09,230 it

2610 00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:09,730 can

2611 00:39:09,730 --> 00:39:10,230 be

2612 00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:10,730 serious

2613 00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:11,230 but

2614 00:39:11,230 --> 00:39:11,730 still

2615 00:39:11,730 --> 00:39:12,230 a hobby

2616 00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:12,730 which

2617 00:39:12,730 --> 00:39:13,230 is

2618 00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:13,730 like

2619 00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:14,230 two

2620 00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:14,730 hours

2621 00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:15,230 a week

2622 00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:15,730 then

2623 00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:16,230 you

2624 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:16,730 go home

2625 00:39:16,730 --> 00:39:17,230 to

2626 00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:17,730 your

2627 00:39:17,730 --> 00:39:18,730 home

2628 00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:19,230 and

2629 00:39:19,230 --> 00:39:20,890 you

2630 00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:21,050 do not

2631 00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:21,610 stretch

2632 00:39:21,610 --> 00:39:22,230 out

2633 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:22,390 the

2634 00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:23,030 community

2635 00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:23,830 that

2636 00:39:23,830 --> 00:39:25,210 politics

2637 00:39:25,210 --> 00:39:26,030 offers

2638 00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:26,990 in

2639 00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:27,250 the

2640 00:39:27,250 --> 00:39:27,770 rest

2641 00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:28,010 of

2642 00:39:28,010 --> 00:39:28,230 their

2643 00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:28,510 life

2644 00:39:28,510 --> 00:39:28,670 and

2645 00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:28,850 I

2646 00:39:28,850 --> 00:39:30,110 remember

2647 00:39:30,110 --> 00:39:30,410 we had

2648 00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:30,690 a lot

2649 00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:30,830 of

2650 00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:31,190 talk

2651 00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:31,330 about

2652 00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:31,450 it

2653 00:39:31,450 --> 00:39:31,530 when

2654 00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:31,630 I

2655 00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:31,710 was

2656 00:39:31,710 --> 00:39:31,970 active

2657 00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:32,310 to

2658 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:32,750 everyone

2659 00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:33,090 like

2660 00:39:33,090 --> 00:39:33,570 how

2661 00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:33,810 should

2662 00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:34,170 we

2663 00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:34,350 make

2664 00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:34,530 sure

2665 00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:34,650 that

2666 00:39:34,650 --> 00:39:34,770 the

2667 00:39:34,770 --> 00:39:35,190 meetings

2668 00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:35,590 do not

2669 00:39:35,590 --> 00:39:35,830 become

2670 00:39:35,830 --> 00:39:36,010 a

2671 00:39:36,010 --> 00:39:36,590 burden

2672 00:39:36,590 --> 00:39:37,110 so

2673 00:39:37,110 --> 00:39:37,350 that

2674 00:39:37,350 --> 00:39:37,470 it

2675 00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:38,490 becomes

2676 00:39:38,490 --> 00:39:38,690 a

2677 00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:38,970 hobby

2678 00:39:38,970 --> 00:39:39,550 activity

2679 00:39:39,550 --> 00:39:39,770 you

2680 00:39:39,770 --> 00:39:39,990 do

2681 00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:40,110 a

2682 00:39:40,110 --> 00:39:40,230 few

2683 00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:40,470 days

2684 00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:40,610 a

2685 00:39:40,610 --> 00:39:40,890 week

2686 00:39:40,890 --> 00:39:41,190 and

2687 00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:41,330 you

2688 00:39:41,330 --> 00:39:41,490 go

2689 00:39:41,490 --> 00:39:42,010 there

2690 00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:42,250 and

2691 00:39:42,250 --> 00:39:42,470 then

2692 00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:43,510 if

2693 00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:43,650 you

2694 00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:43,850 would

2695 00:39:43,850 --> 00:39:44,050 do

2696 00:39:44,050 --> 00:39:44,350 something

2697 00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:44,490 that

2698 00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:44,650 made

2699 00:39:44,650 --> 00:39:44,910 your

2700 00:39:44,910 --> 00:39:45,250 life

2701 00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:45,670 better

2702 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:45,850 what

2703 00:39:45,850 --> 00:39:46,010 would

2704 00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:46,250 that

2705 00:39:46,250 --> 00:39:46,410 be

2706 00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:46,510 it

2707 00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:46,650 would

2708 00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:46,750 be

2709 00:39:46,750 --> 00:39:46,830 to

2710 00:39:46,830 --> 00:39:47,150 stop

2711 00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:47,330 with

2712 00:39:47,330 --> 00:39:47,930 politics

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2716 00:39:48,530 --> 00:39:48,830 mean

2717 00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:49,230 more

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2719 00:39:49,790 --> 00:39:50,310 more

2720 00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:51,010 time

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2722 00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:51,550 desire

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2730 00:39:54,370 --> 00:39:55,110 politics

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2735 00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:57,410 a

2736 00:39:57,410 --> 00:39:57,910 disaster

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2740 00:39:58,990 --> 00:39:59,350 it

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2742 00:39:59,610 --> 00:39:59,810 your

2743 00:39:59,810 --> 00:40:00,210 life

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2746 00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:01,410 things

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2752 00:40:03,890 --> 00:40:04,390 was

2753 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:04,590 where

2754 00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:04,930 you

2755 00:40:04,930 --> 00:40:05,790 ate

2756 00:40:05,790 --> 00:40:06,550 together

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2766 00:40:10,770 --> 00:40:11,510 met

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2781 00:40:18,130 --> 00:40:18,410 with

2782 00:40:18,410 --> 00:40:19,990 economic

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2791 00:40:22,610 --> 00:40:23,310 or

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2793 00:40:24,450 --> 00:40:24,610 that

2794 00:40:24,610 --> 00:40:24,810 need

2795 00:40:24,810 --> 00:40:24,910 to

2796 00:40:24,910 --> 00:40:24,950 be

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2798 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:25,450 or

2799 00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:25,830 moved

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2801 00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:26,450 something

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2808 00:40:31,090 --> 00:40:32,070 easier

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2816 00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:35,090 live

2817 00:40:35,090 --> 00:40:35,270 a

2818 00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:35,550 life

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2820 00:40:35,890 --> 00:40:36,670 politics

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2826 00:40:38,530 --> 00:40:39,090 isolated

2827 00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:39,270 and

2828 00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:39,850 alone

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2831 00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:41,370 it's

2832 00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:41,630 quite

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2838 00:40:45,150 --> 00:40:45,530 that

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2846 00:40:48,190 --> 00:40:48,370 sort

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2915 00:41:21,310 --> 00:41:21,510 a

2916 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:22,270 community

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2941 00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:30,170 violence

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2953 00:41:35,230 --> 00:41:35,830 that

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3040 00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:31,530 and

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3099 00:42:54,090 --> 00:42:54,250 down

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3101 00:42:54,590 --> 00:42:55,150 Coop

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3103 00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:55,490 should

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3105 00:42:55,890 --> 00:42:55,990 to

3106 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:56,450 greet

3107 00:42:56,450 --> 00:42:57,790 at least

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3109 00:42:58,090 --> 00:42:58,570 people

3110 00:42:58,570 --> 00:42:58,870 in

3111 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:59,450 Coop

3112 00:42:59,450 --> 00:42:59,810 and

3113 00:42:59,810 --> 00:43:00,050 not

3114 00:43:00,050 --> 00:43:01,050 be a

3115 00:43:01,050 --> 00:43:01,570 stranger

3116 00:43:01,570 --> 00:43:01,950 and

3117 00:43:01,950 --> 00:43:02,450 that

3118 00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:02,990 our

3119 00:43:02,990 --> 00:43:03,650 strategy

3120 00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:04,030 was

3121 00:43:04,030 --> 00:43:04,610 to

3122 00:43:04,610 --> 00:43:05,010 live

3123 00:43:05,010 --> 00:43:05,490 an

3124 00:43:05,490 --> 00:43:05,950 area

3125 00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:06,170 that

3126 00:43:06,170 --> 00:43:06,310 we

3127 00:43:06,310 --> 00:43:06,530 would

3128 00:43:06,530 --> 00:43:07,770 root

3129 00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:08,050 us

3130 00:43:08,050 --> 00:43:08,230 in

3131 00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:08,410 that

3132 00:43:08,410 --> 00:43:08,810 way

3133 00:43:08,810 --> 00:43:10,950 in

3134 00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:11,230 this

3135 00:43:11,230 --> 00:43:11,690 living

3136 00:43:11,690 --> 00:43:12,230 while

3137 00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:12,670 their

3138 00:43:12,670 --> 00:43:13,010 way

3139 00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:13,150 of

3140 00:43:13,150 --> 00:43:13,170 living

3141 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:13,510 was

3142 00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:13,650 to

3143 00:43:13,650 --> 00:43:13,830 be

3144 00:43:13,830 --> 00:43:13,990 like

3145 00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:14,130 an

3146 00:43:14,130 --> 00:43:14,590 occupation

3147 00:43:14,590 --> 00:43:16,110 army

3148 00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:16,690 that

3149 00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:17,110 they

3150 00:43:17,110 --> 00:43:17,390 wanted

3151 00:43:17,390 --> 00:43:17,550 to

3152 00:43:17,550 --> 00:43:17,890 create

3153 00:43:17,890 --> 00:43:18,130 a

3154 00:43:18,130 --> 00:43:18,670 worry

3155 00:43:18,670 --> 00:43:18,910 and

3156 00:43:18,910 --> 00:43:19,390 fear

3157 00:43:19,390 --> 00:43:19,670 that

3158 00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:19,750 you

3159 00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:19,930 would

3160 00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:20,070 be

3161 00:43:20,070 --> 00:43:20,450 afraid

3162 00:43:20,450 --> 00:43:20,570 to

3163 00:43:20,570 --> 00:43:20,690 go

3164 00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:21,010 out

3165 00:43:21,010 --> 00:43:21,190 and

3166 00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:21,630 you

3167 00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:21,790 would

3168 00:43:21,790 --> 00:43:22,410 know

3169 00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:23,110 that

3170 00:43:23,110 --> 00:43:23,690 in

3171 00:43:23,690 --> 00:43:24,030 this

3172 00:43:24,030 --> 00:43:24,610 area

3173 00:43:24,610 --> 00:43:24,830 there

3174 00:43:24,830 --> 00:43:25,150 are

3175 00:43:25,150 --> 00:43:25,510 these

3176 00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:26,890 male

3177 00:43:26,890 --> 00:43:29,050 common

3178 00:43:29,050 --> 00:43:30,110 resistance

3179 00:43:30,110 --> 00:43:30,830 militias

3180 00:43:30,830 --> 00:43:31,110 that

3181 00:43:31,110 --> 00:43:31,310 go

3182 00:43:31,310 --> 00:43:31,790 around

3183 00:43:31,790 --> 00:43:32,030 there

3184 00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:32,790 and

3185 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:33,250 patrol

3186 00:43:33,250 --> 00:43:33,750 so

3187 00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:34,450 we

3188 00:43:34,450 --> 00:43:34,650 had

3189 00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:34,850 a

3190 00:43:34,850 --> 00:43:35,290 completely

3191 00:43:35,290 --> 00:43:36,110 different

3192 00:43:36,110 --> 00:43:37,890 view

3193 00:43:37,890 --> 00:43:38,170 on

3194 00:43:38,170 --> 00:43:38,450 what

3195 00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:38,690 this

3196 00:43:38,690 --> 00:43:38,910 with

3197 00:43:38,910 --> 00:43:39,090 an

3198 00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:39,610 autonomous

3199 00:43:39,610 --> 00:43:40,270 zone

3200 00:43:40,270 --> 00:43:40,670 was

3201 00:43:40,670 --> 00:43:40,870 for

3202 00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:41,150 something

3203 00:43:41,150 --> 00:43:41,590 yes

3204 00:43:41,590 --> 00:43:42,350 active

3205 00:43:42,350 --> 00:43:42,710 clubs

3206 00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:43,010 today

3207 00:43:43,010 --> 00:43:43,150 I

3208 00:43:43,150 --> 00:43:43,310 have

3209 00:43:43,310 --> 00:43:43,850 still

3210 00:43:43,850 --> 00:43:44,110 like

3211 00:43:44,110 --> 00:43:44,310 they

3212 00:43:44,310 --> 00:43:44,550 put

3213 00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:45,190 a lot

3214 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:45,390 on

3215 00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:46,010 graffiti

3216 00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:46,410 and

3217 00:43:46,410 --> 00:43:47,030 the

3218 00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:47,610 brand

3219 00:43:47,610 --> 00:43:48,010 that

3220 00:43:48,010 --> 00:43:48,170 goes

3221 00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:48,470 out

3222 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:48,770 on

3223 00:43:48,770 --> 00:43:49,510 national

3224 00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:50,290 zone

3225 00:43:50,290 --> 00:43:50,430 is

3226 00:43:50,430 --> 00:43:50,530 where

3227 00:43:50,530 --> 00:43:50,710 they

3228 00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:51,090 spray

3229 00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:51,530 like

3230 00:43:51,530 --> 00:43:52,310 then

3231 00:43:52,310 --> 00:43:52,550 they

3232 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:52,570 have

3233 00:43:52,570 --> 00:43:52,710 like

3234 00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:53,190 put

3235 00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:53,250 out

3236 00:43:53,250 --> 00:43:53,430 some

3237 00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:54,050 areas

3238 00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:54,510 like

3239 00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:55,770 Enskede

3240 00:43:55,770 --> 00:43:57,030 Aspudden

3241 00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:57,970 a little

3242 00:43:57,970 --> 00:43:59,270 Solna

3243 00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:59,650 and so

3244 00:43:59,650 --> 00:44:00,410 as in

3245 00:44:00,410 --> 00:44:00,850 Stockholm

3246 00:44:00,850 --> 00:44:01,110 that

3247 00:44:01,110 --> 00:44:01,290 they

3248 00:44:01,290 --> 00:44:01,530 should

3249 00:44:01,530 --> 00:44:02,550 mark

3250 00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:03,030 as

3251 00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:03,270 their

3252 00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:03,470 but

3253 00:44:03,470 --> 00:44:03,690 it's

3254 00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:05,910 not

3255 00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:06,090 to

3256 00:44:06,090 --> 00:44:06,550 create

3257 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:06,890 like

3258 00:44:06,890 --> 00:44:07,370 a

3259 00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:08,770 security

3260 00:44:08,770 --> 00:44:09,210 or

3261 00:44:09,210 --> 00:44:09,730 lead

3262 00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:10,390 feeling

3263 00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:10,870 there

3264 00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:11,410 no

3265 00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:12,430 at the same time

3266 00:44:12,430 --> 00:44:12,890 I don't know

3267 00:44:12,890 --> 00:44:13,130 here

3268 00:44:13,130 --> 00:44:13,710 in base

3269 00:44:13,710 --> 00:44:15,070 Tassan

3270 00:44:15,070 --> 00:44:15,570 is very

3271 00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:16,510 nomadic

3272 00:44:16,510 --> 00:44:17,530 in that

3273 00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:17,990 thought

3274 00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:18,350 that

3275 00:44:18,350 --> 00:44:19,630 this is

3276 00:44:19,630 --> 00:44:19,890 something

3277 00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:20,570 mobile

3278 00:44:20,570 --> 00:44:21,070 around

3279 00:44:21,070 --> 00:44:21,730 moving

3280 00:44:21,730 --> 00:44:22,130 it's

3281 00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:22,410 like

3282 00:44:22,410 --> 00:44:22,650 this

3283 00:44:22,650 --> 00:44:22,990 for

3284 00:44:22,990 --> 00:44:24,390 precarious

3285 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:25,190 people

3286 00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:25,870 artists

3287 00:44:25,870 --> 00:44:26,410 you

3288 00:44:26,410 --> 00:44:27,290 move

3289 00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:27,690 around

3290 00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:28,110 you

3291 00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:29,150 if

3292 00:44:29,150 --> 00:44:29,330 you

3293 00:44:29,330 --> 00:44:29,670 think

3294 00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:30,070 about

3295 00:44:30,070 --> 00:44:31,030 American

3296 00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:32,030 syndicalist

3297 00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:32,850 union

3298 00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:33,410 industrial

3299 00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:34,110 workers

3300 00:44:34,110 --> 00:44:34,430 of the

3301 00:44:34,430 --> 00:44:34,790 world

3302 00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:35,030 that

3303 00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:35,990 created

3304 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:36,230 a

3305 00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:36,670 structure

3306 00:44:36,670 --> 00:44:37,070 that

3307 00:44:37,070 --> 00:44:37,590 everyone

3308 00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:37,790 was

3309 00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:38,290 traveling

3310 00:44:38,290 --> 00:44:39,670 and

3311 00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:40,070 worked

3312 00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:40,230 at

3313 00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:40,490 different

3314 00:44:40,490 --> 00:44:41,150 places

3315 00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:41,610 traveled

3316 00:44:41,610 --> 00:44:42,030 around

3317 00:44:42,030 --> 00:44:42,170 and

3318 00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:42,310 then

3319 00:44:42,310 --> 00:44:42,670 they

3320 00:44:42,670 --> 00:44:42,870 could

3321 00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:43,390 be

3322 00:44:43,390 --> 00:44:44,150 around

3323 00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:44,530 traveling

3324 00:44:44,530 --> 00:44:45,410 agitators

3325 00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:45,650 that

3326 00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:45,850 could

3327 00:44:45,850 --> 00:44:46,270 get

3328 00:44:46,270 --> 00:44:46,930 the

3329 00:44:46,930 --> 00:44:47,650 workplaces

3330 00:44:47,650 --> 00:44:47,810 to

3331 00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:48,370 start

3332 00:44:48,370 --> 00:44:49,150 up

3333 00:44:49,150 --> 00:44:49,310 a

3334 00:44:49,310 --> 00:44:49,670 trade

3335 00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:49,910 club

3336 00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:50,370 take

3337 00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:50,510 a

3338 00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:50,790 trade

3339 00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:51,170 fight

3340 00:44:51,170 --> 00:44:51,570 win

3341 00:44:51,570 --> 00:44:51,950 better

3342 00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:52,370 salary

3343 00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:52,550 and

3344 00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:52,710 then

3345 00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:52,950 maybe

3346 00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:53,110 it

3347 00:44:53,110 --> 00:44:53,450 solved

3348 00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:53,850 up

3349 00:44:53,850 --> 00:44:53,950 and

3350 00:44:53,950 --> 00:44:54,070 then

3351 00:44:54,070 --> 00:44:54,390 it

3352 00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:55,170 could

3353 00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:55,270 be

3354 00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:55,590 formed

3355 00:44:55,590 --> 00:44:55,830 on

3356 00:44:55,830 --> 00:44:56,110 the

3357 00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:56,590 next

3358 00:44:56,590 --> 00:44:58,970 nomadic

3359 00:44:58,970 --> 00:44:59,890 project

3360 00:44:59,890 --> 00:45:00,390 that

3361 00:45:00,390 --> 00:45:02,230 there

3362 00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:02,730 is

3363 00:45:02,730 --> 00:45:02,970 a

3364 00:45:02,970 --> 00:45:03,730 tradition

3365 00:45:03,730 --> 00:45:04,910 that

3366 00:45:04,910 --> 00:45:05,330 is

3367 00:45:05,330 --> 00:45:06,830 syndicalistic

3368 00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:07,270 you

3369 00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:07,530 have

3370 00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:08,250 organized

3371 00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:09,230 forest

3372 00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:09,730 hunters

3373 00:45:09,730 --> 00:45:10,850 rowlers

3374 00:45:10,850 --> 00:45:11,170 or

3375 00:45:11,170 --> 00:45:11,670 sailors

3376 00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:12,330 just

3377 00:45:12,330 --> 00:45:12,570 those

3378 00:45:12,570 --> 00:45:13,570 nomadic

3379 00:45:13,570 --> 00:45:14,570 professions

3380 00:45:14,570 --> 00:45:16,770 Harry

3381 00:45:16,770 --> 00:45:17,650 Martinsson's

3382 00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:18,010 books

3383 00:45:18,010 --> 00:45:18,390 in

3384 00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:18,710 Sweden

3385 00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:18,890 that

3386 00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:19,030 have

3387 00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:19,230 become

3388 00:45:19,230 --> 00:45:19,730 canon

3389 00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:20,130 where he

3390 00:45:20,130 --> 00:45:20,510 writes

3391 00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:20,850 about

3392 00:45:20,850 --> 00:45:21,830 the

3393 00:45:21,830 --> 00:45:22,370 luffar

3394 00:45:22,370 --> 00:45:22,550 and

3395 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:22,670 the

3396 00:45:22,670 --> 00:45:23,350 sailor

3397 00:45:23,350 --> 00:45:23,650 and

3398 00:45:23,650 --> 00:45:23,910 he

3399 00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:24,070 has

3400 00:45:24,070 --> 00:45:24,430 a lot

3401 00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:24,550 of

3402 00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:24,730 this

3403 00:45:24,730 --> 00:45:26,050 nomadic

3404 00:45:26,050 --> 00:45:27,390 in

3405 00:45:27,390 --> 00:45:28,510 his

3406 00:45:28,510 --> 00:45:28,990 writings

3407 00:45:28,990 --> 00:45:29,350 while

3408 00:45:29,350 --> 00:45:30,930 what we

3409 00:45:30,930 --> 00:45:31,310 worked

3410 00:45:31,310 --> 00:45:31,570 with

3411 00:45:31,570 --> 00:45:31,930 this

3412 00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:32,130 with

3413 00:45:32,130 --> 00:45:32,330 the

3414 00:45:32,330 --> 00:45:32,850 living

3415 00:45:32,850 --> 00:45:33,830 and

3416 00:45:33,830 --> 00:45:34,590 making

3417 00:45:34,590 --> 00:45:35,390 a

3418 00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:35,930 place

3419 00:45:35,930 --> 00:45:36,270 it

3420 00:45:36,270 --> 00:45:37,810 in many

3421 00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:38,110 ways

3422 00:45:38,110 --> 00:45:38,810 resembles

3423 00:45:38,810 --> 00:45:39,550 a

3424 00:45:39,550 --> 00:45:41,490 conservative

3425 00:45:41,490 --> 00:45:42,530 tradition

3426 00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:43,930 to claim

3427 00:45:43,930 --> 00:45:44,450 that a

3428 00:45:44,450 --> 00:45:45,270 place

3429 00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:45,670 bound

3430 00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:46,770 and right

3431 00:45:46,770 --> 00:45:47,170 to that

3432 00:45:47,170 --> 00:45:47,690 place

3433 00:45:47,690 --> 00:45:49,490 as we

3434 00:45:49,490 --> 00:45:50,270 gave a

3435 00:45:50,270 --> 00:45:51,070 left

3436 00:45:51,070 --> 00:45:51,450 drop

3437 00:45:51,450 --> 00:45:52,110 but I'm

3438 00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:52,270 not

3439 00:45:52,270 --> 00:45:52,590 sure

3440 00:45:52,590 --> 00:45:53,990 no but

3441 00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:54,170 it's

3442 00:45:54,170 --> 00:45:54,530 exciting

3443 00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:55,210 what we

3444 00:45:55,210 --> 00:45:55,730 should do

3445 00:45:55,730 --> 00:45:56,090 with

3446 00:45:56,090 --> 00:45:57,290 nomadology

3447 00:45:57,290 --> 00:45:58,050 or the

3448 00:45:58,050 --> 00:45:58,910 nomadic

3449 00:45:58,910 --> 00:45:59,290 because

3450 00:45:59,290 --> 00:46:00,990 it is

3451 00:46:00,990 --> 00:46:01,670 a

3452 00:46:01,670 --> 00:46:04,390 problem

3453 00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:04,930 or

3454 00:46:04,930 --> 00:46:07,010 it is

3455 00:46:07,010 --> 00:46:07,530 so that

3456 00:46:07,530 --> 00:46:07,970 even

3457 00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:09,050 capitalism

3458 00:46:09,050 --> 00:46:09,530 or

3459 00:46:09,530 --> 00:46:09,930 capital

3460 00:46:09,930 --> 00:46:10,670 is

3461 00:46:10,670 --> 00:46:11,730 nomadic

3462 00:46:11,730 --> 00:46:12,490 and

3463 00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:12,730 in

3464 00:46:12,730 --> 00:46:13,190 its

3465 00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:13,610 to

3466 00:46:13,610 --> 00:46:13,970 its

3467 00:46:13,970 --> 00:46:14,810 nature

3468 00:46:14,810 --> 00:46:15,210 that is

3469 00:46:15,210 --> 00:46:15,410 to say

3470 00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:16,630 capital

3471 00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:17,270 wants to

3472 00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:18,950 flow

3473 00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:20,270 freely

3474 00:46:20,270 --> 00:46:21,110 without

3475 00:46:21,110 --> 00:46:21,390 like

3476 00:46:21,390 --> 00:46:22,570 boundaries

3477 00:46:22,570 --> 00:46:23,730 hinders

3478 00:46:23,730 --> 00:46:24,990 different

3479 00:46:24,990 --> 00:46:26,050 cultures

3480 00:46:26,050 --> 00:46:26,370 is

3481 00:46:26,370 --> 00:46:27,010 difficult

3482 00:46:27,010 --> 00:46:27,430 like

3483 00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:27,770 without

3484 00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:28,830 capital

3485 00:46:28,830 --> 00:46:29,370 works

3486 00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:29,630 a lot

3487 00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:30,070 by

3488 00:46:30,070 --> 00:46:30,950 loosening

3489 00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:31,470 out

3490 00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:31,950 the

3491 00:46:31,950 --> 00:46:32,210 room

3492 00:46:32,210 --> 00:46:33,210 and

3493 00:46:33,210 --> 00:46:33,630 make

3494 00:46:33,630 --> 00:46:34,610 everything

3495 00:46:34,610 --> 00:46:35,470 exchangeable

3496 00:46:35,470 --> 00:46:35,670 against

3497 00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:35,970 everything

3498 00:46:35,970 --> 00:46:36,390 else

3499 00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:36,930 it is

3500 00:46:36,930 --> 00:46:37,230 the

3501 00:46:37,230 --> 00:46:37,250 very

3502 00:46:37,250 --> 00:46:38,770 basic

3503 00:46:38,770 --> 00:46:39,290 form

3504 00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:39,590 that

3505 00:46:39,590 --> 00:46:40,550 whatever

3506 00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:41,430 should

3507 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:41,670 be

3508 00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:42,170 exchanged

3509 00:46:42,170 --> 00:46:42,390 against

3510 00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:42,930 anything

3511 00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:43,690 and

3512 00:46:43,690 --> 00:46:43,870 for

3513 00:46:43,870 --> 00:46:43,990 that

3514 00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:44,090 it

3515 00:46:44,090 --> 00:46:44,230 should

3516 00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:44,630 happen

3517 00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:44,830 we

3518 00:46:44,830 --> 00:46:45,050 must

3519 00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:46,510 have

3520 00:46:46,510 --> 00:46:46,750 a

3521 00:46:46,750 --> 00:46:47,090 world

3522 00:46:47,090 --> 00:46:47,350 that

3523 00:46:47,350 --> 00:46:47,850 is

3524 00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:49,590 nomadic

3525 00:46:49,590 --> 00:46:50,770 not necessarily

3526 00:46:50,770 --> 00:46:51,050 for

3527 00:46:51,050 --> 00:46:51,490 people

3528 00:46:51,490 --> 00:46:51,850 but

3529 00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:52,210 for

3530 00:46:52,210 --> 00:46:53,250 capital

3531 00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:54,250 goods

3532 00:46:54,250 --> 00:46:55,270 circulation

3533 00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:56,850 and

3534 00:46:56,850 --> 00:46:57,410 if we

3535 00:46:57,410 --> 00:46:58,270 operate

3536 00:46:58,270 --> 00:46:58,490 in

3537 00:46:58,490 --> 00:46:58,650 the

3538 00:46:58,650 --> 00:46:59,170 nomadic

3539 00:46:59,170 --> 00:46:59,550 way

3540 00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:00,030 we

3541 00:47:00,030 --> 00:47:00,090 are

3542 00:47:00,090 --> 00:47:00,590 not

3543 00:47:00,590 --> 00:47:01,370 moving

3544 00:47:01,370 --> 00:47:02,330 in

3545 00:47:02,330 --> 00:47:03,510 the

3546 00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:03,930 capital

3547 00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:04,170 in

3548 00:47:04,170 --> 00:47:04,250 the

3549 00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:04,590 leading

3550 00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:04,950 band

3551 00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:05,110 in

3552 00:47:05,110 --> 00:47:05,290 some

3553 00:47:05,290 --> 00:47:05,570 way

3554 00:47:05,570 --> 00:47:06,470 it

3555 00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:06,670 may

3556 00:47:06,670 --> 00:47:06,890 be

3557 00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:07,010 so

3558 00:47:07,010 --> 00:47:07,110 that

3559 00:47:07,110 --> 00:47:07,230 we

3560 00:47:07,230 --> 00:47:07,510 must

3561 00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:07,890 hold

3562 00:47:07,890 --> 00:47:10,010 line

3563 00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:10,610 17

3564 00:47:10,610 --> 00:47:11,730 or

3565 00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:12,030 like

3566 00:47:12,030 --> 00:47:12,910 or

3567 00:47:12,910 --> 00:47:12,930 or

3568 00:47:12,930 --> 00:47:13,130 or

3569 00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:13,230 or

3570 00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:13,530 or

3571 00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:14,030 or

3572 00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:14,130 or

3573 00:47:14,130 --> 00:47:15,590 draw

3574 00:47:15,590 --> 00:47:16,130 lines

3575 00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:17,050 create

3576 00:47:17,050 --> 00:47:17,730 borders

3577 00:47:17,730 --> 00:47:18,210 or

3578 00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:18,430 so

3579 00:47:18,430 --> 00:47:18,790 yes

3580 00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:19,150 in one

3581 00:47:19,150 --> 00:47:19,350 way

3582 00:47:19,350 --> 00:47:19,690 it is

3583 00:47:19,690 --> 00:47:20,030 to

3584 00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:20,770 ruffle

3585 00:47:20,770 --> 00:47:20,950 the

3586 00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:21,170 room

3587 00:47:21,170 --> 00:47:21,610 open

3588 00:47:21,610 --> 00:47:22,170 cracks

3589 00:47:22,170 --> 00:47:22,730 find

3590 00:47:22,730 --> 00:47:24,250 places

3591 00:47:24,250 --> 00:47:24,630 that

3592 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:24,810 we

3593 00:47:24,810 --> 00:47:25,050 can

3594 00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:25,270 like

3595 00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:26,110 to

3596 00:47:26,110 --> 00:47:26,650 attach

3597 00:47:26,650 --> 00:47:27,010 like

3598 00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:27,290 in

3599 00:47:27,290 --> 00:47:27,670 different

3600 00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:28,130 ways

3601 00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:28,530 but

3602 00:47:28,530 --> 00:47:28,790 on the

3603 00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:28,810 other

3604 00:47:28,810 --> 00:47:29,010 side

3605 00:47:29,010 --> 00:47:29,230 you

3606 00:47:29,230 --> 00:47:29,530 see

3607 00:47:29,530 --> 00:47:29,990 what

3608 00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:30,110 the

3609 00:47:30,110 --> 00:47:30,530 threat

3610 00:47:30,530 --> 00:47:30,690 it

3611 00:47:30,690 --> 00:47:31,010 is

3612 00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:31,390 for

3613 00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:32,610 right

3614 00:47:32,610 --> 00:47:33,230 when

3615 00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:33,930 the

3616 00:47:33,930 --> 00:47:34,590 working

3617 00:47:34,590 --> 00:47:35,290 class

3618 00:47:35,290 --> 00:47:35,670 the

3619 00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:36,350 population

3620 00:47:36,350 --> 00:47:36,610 in

3621 00:47:36,610 --> 00:47:36,730 the

3622 00:47:36,730 --> 00:47:37,030 world

3623 00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:37,750 starts

3624 00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:38,010 to

3625 00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:38,430 follow

3626 00:47:38,430 --> 00:47:38,670 the

3627 00:47:38,670 --> 00:47:39,190 capital

3628 00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:39,890 flows

3629 00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:40,730 go

3630 00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:40,990 from

3631 00:47:40,990 --> 00:47:41,330 the

3632 00:47:41,330 --> 00:47:42,370 cities

3633 00:47:42,370 --> 00:47:42,850 to

3634 00:47:42,850 --> 00:47:43,650 cities

3635 00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:44,830 to

3636 00:47:44,830 --> 00:47:45,450 other

3637 00:47:45,450 --> 00:47:46,070 nations

3638 00:47:46,070 --> 00:47:46,530 go

3639 00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:46,890 over

3640 00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:47,550 the

3641 00:47:47,550 --> 00:47:48,330 continents

3642 00:47:48,330 --> 00:47:49,230 borders

3643 00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:49,690 like

3644 00:47:49,690 --> 00:47:50,010 that

3645 00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:51,570 yesterday

3646 00:47:51,570 --> 00:47:52,950 Donald

3647 00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:53,470 Trump

3648 00:47:53,470 --> 00:47:53,510 held

3649 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:53,690 his

3650 00:47:53,690 --> 00:47:54,250 opening

3651 00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:54,890 speech

3652 00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:55,330 for

3653 00:47:55,330 --> 00:47:56,170 the

3654 00:47:56,170 --> 00:47:56,470 UN

3655 00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:56,930 like

3656 00:47:56,930 --> 00:47:57,410 where

3657 00:47:57,410 --> 00:47:57,650 he

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3660 00:47:58,990 --> 00:47:59,270 it

3661 00:47:59,270 --> 00:48:00,410 you

3662 00:48:00,410 --> 00:48:00,890 live

3663 00:48:00,890 --> 00:48:01,050 in

3664 00:48:01,050 --> 00:48:01,690 hell

3665 00:48:01,690 --> 00:48:02,370 because

3666 00:48:02,370 --> 00:48:03,090 you

3667 00:48:03,090 --> 00:48:03,330 do

3668 00:48:03,330 --> 00:48:04,710 nothing

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3670 00:48:05,170 --> 00:48:05,470 just

3671 00:48:05,470 --> 00:48:06,630 flows

3672 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:07,010 in

3673 00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:07,450 people

3674 00:48:07,450 --> 00:48:08,290 everywhere

3675 00:48:08,290 --> 00:48:09,010 these

3676 00:48:09,010 --> 00:48:09,670 flows

3677 00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:10,090 you

3678 00:48:10,090 --> 00:48:10,990 can't

3679 00:48:10,990 --> 00:48:11,310 stop

3680 00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:11,930 your

3681 00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:12,530 borders

3682 00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:12,950 and

3683 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:14,270 create

3684 00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:14,670 your

3685 00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:15,250 protected

3686 00:48:15,250 --> 00:48:16,150 areas

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3688 00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:16,990 your

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3690 00:48:17,730 --> 00:48:18,450 are

3691 00:48:18,450 --> 00:48:19,550 relevant

3692 00:48:19,550 --> 00:48:19,830 and

3693 00:48:19,830 --> 00:48:20,050 it's

3694 00:48:20,050 --> 00:48:20,490 the

3695 00:48:20,490 --> 00:48:21,350 idea

3696 00:48:21,350 --> 00:48:21,810 now

3697 00:48:21,810 --> 00:48:22,070 that

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3700 00:48:24,250 --> 00:48:24,770 as a

3701 00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:26,030 backslash

3702 00:48:26,030 --> 00:48:26,230 on

3703 00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:27,270 neoliberalism

3704 00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:27,870 not that

3705 00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:28,030 the

3706 00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:28,510 market

3707 00:48:28,510 --> 00:48:28,770 should

3708 00:48:28,770 --> 00:48:29,150 stop

3709 00:48:29,150 --> 00:48:29,370 being

3710 00:48:29,370 --> 00:48:29,830 global

3711 00:48:29,830 --> 00:48:30,150 but

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3713 00:48:30,490 --> 00:48:31,070 the

3714 00:48:31,070 --> 00:48:31,490 market

3715 00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:31,710 should

3716 00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:32,230 continue

3717 00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:32,490 to be

3718 00:48:32,490 --> 00:48:33,170 global

3719 00:48:33,170 --> 00:48:33,710 and

3720 00:48:33,710 --> 00:48:34,730 capital

3721 00:48:34,730 --> 00:48:35,170 should

3722 00:48:35,170 --> 00:48:35,550 continue

3723 00:48:35,550 --> 00:48:35,710 to

3724 00:48:35,710 --> 00:48:36,130 flow

3725 00:48:36,130 --> 00:48:36,630 freely

3726 00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:36,910 but

3727 00:48:36,910 --> 00:48:37,550 people

3728 00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:37,870 should

3729 00:48:37,870 --> 00:48:38,550 not

3730 00:48:38,550 --> 00:48:39,770 move

3731 00:48:39,770 --> 00:48:40,030 on

3732 00:48:40,030 --> 00:48:40,370 themselves

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3738 00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:42,650 need

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3742 00:48:44,350 --> 00:48:44,530 up

3743 00:48:44,530 --> 00:48:44,710 for

3744 00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:45,110 construction

3745 00:48:45,110 --> 00:48:45,710 work

3746 00:48:45,710 --> 00:48:45,950 and

3747 00:48:45,950 --> 00:48:46,390 agricultural

3748 00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:47,010 work

3749 00:48:47,010 --> 00:48:47,210 then

3750 00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:47,450 they

3751 00:48:47,450 --> 00:48:47,470 can

3752 00:48:47,470 --> 00:48:47,770 come

3753 00:48:47,770 --> 00:48:48,550 temporarily

3754 00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:49,310 live

3755 00:48:49,310 --> 00:48:49,810 in

3756 00:48:49,810 --> 00:48:50,350 barracks

3757 00:48:50,350 --> 00:48:50,570 on

3758 00:48:50,570 --> 00:48:50,690 a

3759 00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:51,230 limited

3760 00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:51,770 area

3761 00:48:51,770 --> 00:48:51,930 and

3762 00:48:51,930 --> 00:48:52,030 then

3763 00:48:52,030 --> 00:48:52,370 be

3764 00:48:52,370 --> 00:48:52,390 sent

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3766 00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:53,010 again

3767 00:48:53,010 --> 00:48:53,670 in

3768 00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:53,870 their

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3770 00:48:54,330 --> 00:48:54,950 variant

3771 00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:55,370 of

3772 00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:56,330 autonomous

3773 00:48:56,330 --> 00:48:56,810 zone

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3776 00:48:57,710 --> 00:48:57,850 least

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3784 00:49:01,090 --> 00:49:01,310 is

3785 00:49:01,310 --> 00:49:01,510 not

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3787 00:49:02,590 --> 00:49:02,690 how

3788 00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:02,810 I

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3790 00:49:03,150 --> 00:49:03,490 this

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3792 00:49:03,930 --> 00:49:04,170 about

3793 00:49:04,170 --> 00:49:04,590 zones

3794 00:49:04,590 --> 00:49:04,830 you

3795 00:49:04,830 --> 00:49:05,110 read

3796 00:49:05,110 --> 00:49:05,550 the

3797 00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:06,090 book

3798 00:49:06,090 --> 00:49:07,950 about

3799 00:49:07,950 --> 00:49:08,990 zones

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3810 00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:13,950 as

3811 00:49:13,950 --> 00:49:14,130 an

3812 00:49:14,130 --> 00:49:14,770 undercurrent

3813 00:49:14,770 --> 00:49:14,990 in

3814 00:49:14,990 --> 00:49:15,950 neoliberalism

3815 00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:16,270 this

3816 00:49:16,270 --> 00:49:16,950 attempt

3817 00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:17,270 to

3818 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:18,150 pull

3819 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:18,730 pieces

3820 00:49:18,730 --> 00:49:19,250 out

3821 00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:19,350 of

3822 00:49:19,350 --> 00:49:19,530 the

3823 00:49:19,530 --> 00:49:19,930 state

3824 00:49:19,930 --> 00:49:20,290 that

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3826 00:49:20,490 --> 00:49:20,930 be

3827 00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:21,370 the

3828 00:49:21,370 --> 00:49:22,090 capital's

3829 00:49:22,090 --> 00:49:22,630 autonomous

3830 00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:23,110 zones

3831 00:49:23,110 --> 00:49:23,350 where

3832 00:49:23,350 --> 00:49:23,730 labor

3833 00:49:23,730 --> 00:49:24,090 rights

3834 00:49:24,090 --> 00:49:24,530 shouldn't

3835 00:49:24,530 --> 00:49:25,470 matter

3836 00:49:25,470 --> 00:49:26,210 where

3837 00:49:26,210 --> 00:49:26,310 you

3838 00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:26,410 should

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3840 00:49:26,690 --> 00:49:26,710 able

3841 00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:26,790 to

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3843 00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:27,430 out

3844 00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:27,610 how

3845 00:49:27,610 --> 00:49:27,910 much

3846 00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:28,530 profit

3847 00:49:28,530 --> 00:49:28,790 you

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3850 00:49:30,110 --> 00:49:30,710 these

3851 00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:31,470 limited

3852 00:49:31,470 --> 00:49:31,990 zones

3853 00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:32,450 and

3854 00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:34,290 libertarians

3855 00:49:34,290 --> 00:49:34,790 dream

3856 00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:35,070 about

3857 00:49:35,070 --> 00:49:35,350 that

3858 00:49:35,350 --> 00:49:35,770 form

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3862 00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:39,150 variant

3863 00:49:39,150 --> 00:49:39,450 on

3864 00:49:39,450 --> 00:49:39,870 this

3865 00:49:39,870 --> 00:49:40,410 theory

3866 00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:40,850 and

3867 00:49:40,850 --> 00:49:41,350 the

3868 00:49:41,350 --> 00:49:41,690 dream

3869 00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:41,910 of

3870 00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:42,490 creating

3871 00:49:42,490 --> 00:49:43,590 the

3872 00:49:43,590 --> 00:49:44,090 kingdom

3873 00:49:44,090 --> 00:49:44,550 that

3874 00:49:44,550 --> 00:49:45,050 is

3875 00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:46,110 outside

3876 00:49:46,110 --> 00:49:47,770 Curtis

3877 00:49:47,770 --> 00:49:48,430 Jarvin

3878 00:49:48,430 --> 00:49:48,670 who

3879 00:49:48,670 --> 00:49:48,850 is

3880 00:49:48,850 --> 00:49:49,050 one

3881 00:49:49,050 --> 00:49:49,190 of

3882 00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:49,370 the

3883 00:49:49,370 --> 00:49:49,970 ideologues

3884 00:49:49,970 --> 00:49:50,430 behind

3885 00:49:50,430 --> 00:49:50,810 Peter

3886 00:49:50,810 --> 00:49:51,210 Thiel

3887 00:49:51,210 --> 00:49:51,790 and

3888 00:49:51,790 --> 00:49:52,570 J.D.

3889 00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:53,110 Vance

3890 00:49:53,110 --> 00:49:53,750 he

3891 00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:54,550 talks

3892 00:49:54,550 --> 00:49:54,790 about

3893 00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:54,930 it

3894 00:49:54,930 --> 00:49:55,150 as

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3897 00:49:57,130 --> 00:49:57,370 because

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3900 00:49:57,690 --> 00:49:59,250 tie

3901 00:49:59,250 --> 00:49:59,470 it

3902 00:49:59,470 --> 00:49:59,690 to

3903 00:49:59,690 --> 00:49:59,890 a

3904 00:49:59,890 --> 00:50:00,250 new

3905 00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:00,690 sovereign

3906 00:50:00,690 --> 00:50:01,110 and

3907 00:50:01,110 --> 00:50:01,630 choose

3908 00:50:01,630 --> 00:50:02,410 which

3909 00:50:02,410 --> 00:50:02,970 sovereign

3910 00:50:02,970 --> 00:50:03,210 you

3911 00:50:03,210 --> 00:50:03,410 should

3912 00:50:03,410 --> 00:50:05,450 subordinate

3913 00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:05,850 you

3914 00:50:05,850 --> 00:50:06,210 and

3915 00:50:06,210 --> 00:50:07,330 I know

3916 00:50:07,330 --> 00:50:07,470 that

3917 00:50:07,470 --> 00:50:08,410 a large

3918 00:50:08,410 --> 00:50:08,650 part

3919 00:50:08,650 --> 00:50:08,790 of

3920 00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:09,170 the left

3921 00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:10,170 sees

3922 00:50:10,170 --> 00:50:10,830 Hakeem

3923 00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:11,170 Bay

3924 00:50:11,170 --> 00:50:11,370 and

3925 00:50:11,370 --> 00:50:11,670 Tas

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3927 00:50:11,970 --> 00:50:12,770 it's

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3936 00:50:17,490 --> 00:50:17,710 same time

3937 00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:17,850 as

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3950 00:50:23,550 --> 00:50:23,870 the

3951 00:50:23,870 --> 00:50:23,950 whole

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4025 00:51:04,570 --> 00:51:04,830 of

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4032 00:51:07,130 --> 00:51:07,430 of

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4037 00:51:09,170 --> 00:51:09,670 of

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4733 00:56:36,130 --> 00:56:36,430 completely

4734 00:56:36,430 --> 00:56:36,710 different

4735 00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:37,270 view

4736 00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:37,550 of

4737 00:56:37,550 --> 00:56:37,770 what

4738 00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:37,990 it

4739 00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:43,230 is that democracy is like a living public being.

4740 00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:50,490 Yes, but it may be where we should look for hope

4741 00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:54,110 in how these temporary autonomous zones

4742 00:56:54,110 --> 00:56:57,570 can also over-scroll themselves

4743 00:56:57,570 --> 00:57:02,290 and swell out of their temporality

4744 00:57:02,290 --> 00:57:04,570 or out of their zone

4745 00:57:04,570 --> 00:57:09,930 and become more active in the big picture.

4746 00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:13,850 But you who work a lot with participant culture

4747 00:57:13,850 --> 00:57:20,790 and different forms of acting, theater, games,

4748 00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:28,130 how do you see the participant-creating that you work with

4749 00:57:28,130 --> 00:57:31,930 that connects to this with temporary autonomous zones

4750 00:57:31,930 --> 00:57:33,850 and what is it for...

4751 00:57:33,850 --> 00:57:34,550 Do you see it as...

4752 00:57:34,550 --> 00:57:37,630 Do you see it as a way of doing what politics should,

4753 00:57:37,630 --> 00:57:42,570 or what the movements should be used to and learn from?

4754 00:57:42,890 --> 00:57:45,290 Yes, but I think there are many experiences

4755 00:57:45,290 --> 00:57:50,730 from games and play and game design.

4756 00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:55,710 That is, how do we think that some rules

4757 00:57:55,710 --> 00:58:00,650 or some agreements can change the relations between us

4758 00:58:00,650 --> 00:58:04,470 and create emergence or create movement

4759 00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:04,530 or change the relationship between us

4760 00:58:04,550 --> 00:58:07,110 or create a community.

4761 00:58:07,110 --> 00:58:09,930 So, I think that you can learn about

4762 00:58:09,930 --> 00:58:14,170 how do we find playful rules of play

4763 00:58:14,170 --> 00:58:20,930 for ourselves that put a speed on us as a group or as a community.

4764 00:58:20,930 --> 00:58:27,330 We have done some playful anti-fascist actions.

4765 00:58:27,330 --> 00:58:32,430 One activity we did, I don't even remember what we protested against,

4766 00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:34,430 but it was probably political gibberish and such.

4767 00:58:34,430 --> 00:58:37,930 It was about what we thought was a very important issue

4768 00:58:37,930 --> 00:58:39,730 as we were in the middle of a war

4769 00:58:39,730 --> 00:58:45,170 when we announced the water war between the North and the South of Stockholm.

4770 00:58:45,170 --> 00:58:50,050 And we were supposed to come with us in red or blue or green clothes

4771 00:58:50,050 --> 00:58:53,050 and bring everything that we had and then meet at the place

4772 00:58:53,050 --> 00:58:57,110 where the event was going to take place.

4773 00:58:57,110 --> 00:59:00,990 And the panic that we had when they saw that we were trying to create

4774 00:59:00,990 --> 00:59:03,990 mass spread for something humorous and playful.

4775 00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:16,550 We had various Nazi demonstrations, we had a water war against racial war, where we used the idea against a Nazi march, and made the police play and take all the water pistols, all the water balloons, and so on.

4776 00:59:17,550 --> 00:59:29,230 Every people's gathering became an uncontrollable threat, so it required such enormous surveillance to prevent it from breaking loose.

4777 00:59:29,230 --> 00:59:44,590 Another time we did this, the Jewish conspiracy, but Jewish with an LJ in it, as a Jew, where everyone invited everyone to come in, and folk music teams, and VVC-lovers, and violists, and banders, and so on,

4778 00:59:44,590 --> 00:59:54,310 and drank a Nazi march, so that we said, here's the anti-Semitic, and here's the Jewish conspiracy, now they're going to...

4779 00:59:54,310 --> 00:59:58,970 Yes, I think all those examples are wonderful.

4780 00:59:59,230 --> 01:00:05,110 And maybe it's possible to think with this kind of text in the back of your head in some way.

4781 01:00:05,110 --> 01:00:24,470 But it's still very game-like, or we use the game and the game and the form of the competition in it, but this with playing, a project that creates new relationships,

4782 01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:28,470 like a game, a role-playing game that creates relationships.

4783 01:00:29,230 --> 01:00:36,150 And to get those relationships to survive in some way when the game is over, because you...

4784 01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:45,350 Yes, and I mean, it probably happens inevitably, and in the live environment we usually call it bleeding, or that it bleeds through.

4785 01:00:45,350 --> 01:00:57,270 That is, that the relationships we have built in the fantasy somehow bleed through to our real relationships, or our real identities, quite simply.

4786 01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:57,330 Mm.

4787 01:00:59,230 --> 01:01:05,250 Mm-hmm.

4788 01:01:05,250 --> 01:01:05,270 Mm-hmm.

4789 01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:05,370 Mm-hmm.

4790 01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:05,390 Mm-hmm.

4791 01:01:05,390 --> 01:01:05,450 Mm-hmm.

4792 01:01:05,450 --> 01:01:05,510 Mm-hmm.

4793 01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:05,550 Mm-hmm.

4794 01:01:05,550 --> 01:01:05,570 Mm-hmm.

4795 01:01:05,570 --> 01:01:05,590 Mm-hmm.

4796 01:01:05,590 --> 01:01:05,610 Mm-hmm.

4797 01:01:05,610 --> 01:01:05,630 Mm-hmm.

4798 01:01:05,630 --> 01:01:05,650 Mm-hmm.

4799 01:01:05,650 --> 01:01:05,670 Mm-hmm.

4800 01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:05,710 Mm-hmm.

4801 01:01:05,710 --> 01:01:05,730 Mm-hmm.

4802 01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:05,790 Mm-hmm.

4803 01:01:05,790 --> 01:01:05,830 Mm-hmm.

4804 01:01:05,830 --> 01:01:05,890 Mm-hmm.

4805 01:01:05,890 --> 01:01:05,910 Mm-hmm.

4806 01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:05,970 Mm-hmm.

4807 01:01:05,970 --> 01:01:05,990 Mm-hmm.

4808 01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:06,010 Mm-hmm.

4809 01:01:06,010 --> 01:01:06,030 Mm-hmm.

4810 01:01:06,030 --> 01:01:06,090 Mm-hmm.

4811 01:01:06,090 --> 01:01:06,150 Mm-hmm.

4812 01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:06,170 Mm-hmm.

4813 01:01:06,170 --> 01:01:06,230 Mm-hmm.

4814 01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:06,250 Mm-hmm.

4815 01:01:06,250 --> 01:01:06,270 Mm-hmm.

4816 01:01:06,270 --> 01:01:06,330 Mm-hmm.

4817 01:01:06,330 --> 01:01:06,390 Mm-hmm.

4818 01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:06,410 Mm-hmm.

4819 01:01:06,410 --> 01:01:06,450 Mm-hmm.

4820 01:01:06,450 --> 01:01:06,470 Mm-hmm.

4821 01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:06,530 Mm-hmm.

4822 01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:06,550 Mm-hmm.

4823 01:01:06,550 --> 01:01:06,570 Mm-hmm.

4824 01:01:29,230 --> 01:01:35,230 an integrated part in the creation of a live or a role-playing game.

4825 01:01:35,230 --> 01:01:45,230 A lot of the action training when I became a young activist was about learning things like

4826 01:01:45,230 --> 01:01:51,230 relying on the collective, walking in a chain, holding on to the police demonstration game

4827 01:01:51,230 --> 01:01:56,230 where you go and drag people out of a clump.

4828 01:01:56,230 --> 01:02:03,230 We also did a lot of these exercises where you stand in a chain and then others run forward

4829 01:02:03,230 --> 01:02:09,230 and shout slogans or throw empty plastic bottles or something like that.

4830 01:02:09,230 --> 01:02:13,230 To get around this feeling of flight behavior.

4831 01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:22,230 A lot of demonstrations of mass handling, crowd management, is about shocking a crowd

4832 01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:25,230 to become individuals and act like individuals.

4833 01:02:25,230 --> 01:02:26,230 You have to save your own skin.

4834 01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:28,230 You have to run away from it.

4835 01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:33,230 While it's harder to get this collective dimension and get it.

4836 01:02:33,230 --> 01:02:43,230 It may require training and trust and that it has to grow and experience to be able to become one.

4837 01:02:43,230 --> 01:02:45,230 Absolutely.

4838 01:02:45,230 --> 01:02:51,230 Even techniques like relaxing when you get caught and just sink together.

4839 01:02:51,230 --> 01:02:55,230 It's also a sort of distraction.

4840 01:02:55,230 --> 01:03:01,230 When you don't tighten your body, you can't even be moved.

4841 01:03:01,230 --> 01:03:07,230 You just become a heavy, formless bag of meat.

4842 01:03:07,230 --> 01:03:13,480 And that has some sort of activist potential.

4843 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:21,480 And you shouldn't see any potential in the cultural massacres of the times they're doing now

4844 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,480 with the slaughter of the various cultural institutions.

4845 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:25,480 And the withdrawal of donations.

4846 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,480 And the closure of places.

4847 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:35,480 But somehow we have to think in these paths.

4848 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,480 We won't get a space for the culture.

4849 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,480 We have to take a space for the culture.

4850 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,480 How do we take those spaces?

4851 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:49,480 And also in that way make this a creative...

4852 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,480 Not just to get into a defensive position.

4853 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,480 But then we have to think creatively about what we can do based on this.

4854 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,480 They take certain spaces.

4855 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,480 What other spaces do we have that we can open and take if we want to get out?

4856 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:11,480 It's pretty impressive that there are 100,000 square meters that are empty in the inner city of Stockholm.

4857 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,480 After the office buildings and so on.

4858 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:19,480 There are rooms that are empty in the middle of the city.

4859 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,480 So it might be about finding the keys.

4860 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:35,480 Yes, in many cases there are also people who are willing to rent out the premises if you don't want to occupy them.

4861 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,480 Because the building is empty for a year now.

4862 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:45,480 But fill it with activity and use it instead of it being empty until this date.

4863 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,480 Then we will make money from it.

4864 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:48,480 Yes.

4865 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:56,480 I think that here in Stockholm we might need a new gentrification.

4866 01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:01,480 Since the city is so dead and empty.

4867 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:07,480 Maybe the capital will also be interested in opening its doors.

4868 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:08,480 Who knows?

4869 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:15,480 I feel that there is a lot that makes me happy right now.

4870 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,480 But what makes me happy...

4871 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,480 There are different forms of that.

4872 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,480 The taking of space.

4873 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,480 Things that own rooms.

4874 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:33,480 And no matter if it's performances on the Cyclops or Hägerstensåsens Medborgarhus.

4875 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:38,480 Or on the 44th or completely other places we have never been.

4876 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:44,480 Suddenly Maximtheater is there and we want a lot of activities.

4877 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:45,480 It's exciting.

4878 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,480 But also the movement that has gone out on the streets.

4879 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:54,480 The KTH solidarity camp that emerged outside KTH.

4880 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,480 The counterpart of the University of Stockholm.

4881 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:03,480 Which then moved into the parliament during a short day outside the parliament.

4882 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:09,480 But also that every Saturday the streets are filled with demonstrators.

4883 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,480 And that it has spilled over on all other days.

4884 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,480 It's like the effect of overspilling.

4885 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,480 How do we spread the autonomous zones?

4886 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:26,480 In a time when the right can only respond with control and repression.

4887 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,480 And condition.

4888 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,480 And say, you can't do this.

4889 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,480 And then the frustration.

4890 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:33,480 But everyone does it anyway.

4891 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,480 Everyone does this.

4892 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,480 And they realize that there are so many things that are not...

4893 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,480 But you have to have a condition for this demonstration.

4894 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,480 If everyone just walks in and hangs in the city.

4895 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:45,480 Is it a demonstration?

4896 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,480 It manifests something.

4897 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,480 But it's not a demonstration in that way.

4898 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,480 And there are so many things that they don't have.

4899 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,480 But this shouldn't happen in this way.

4900 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,480 Or you shouldn't use it in this way.

4901 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,480 Or you shouldn't be able to apply for a demonstration season on a square.

4902 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,480 Three weeks in a row.

4903 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,480 From 12 o'clock in the morning to 10 o'clock in the evening.

4904 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,480 Or something like that.

4905 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:18,480 I think there are many ways to build a...

4906 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,480 It becomes another form of...

4907 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,480 Now climate change has tried with disruptive tactics.

4908 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,480 To be put on motorways.

4909 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,480 To be put in crossings.

4910 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,480 It creates conflict.

4911 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,480 It often creates it with the police officers.

4912 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,480 Who may not have anything to do with the decisions.

4913 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,480 And it also gives the police a chance to go on pretty hard.

4914 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,480 But the Palestinian movement has been disruptive in a completely different way.

4915 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,480 Which has not led to any fields.

4916 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:47,480 Some have been condemned.

4917 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,480 And that is exciting.

4918 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:54,480 How can you go on those disruptive paths?

4919 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:59,480 It can also be that different political movements need different methods.

4920 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,480 And maybe the climate movement needs direct confrontation.

4921 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:04,480 Yes.

4922 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,480 So it can also be.

4923 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,480 Even if it is...

4924 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,480 It is uncomfortable.

4925 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:12,480 Yes.

4926 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,480 And maybe the Palestinian movement also now needs to escalate.

4927 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,479 And think about the methods of the climate movement.

4928 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,479 And start blocking ports and train stations.

4929 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,479 And weapon factories.

4930 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,479 And weapon fairs.

4931 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,479 It needs to climb up to that level now too.

4932 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:36,479 But I don't think you should read Bayotess as something that will solve all our problems.

4933 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:37,479 No.

4934 01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:38,479 Because it doesn't.

4935 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:43,479 But it gives us material to dream with.

4936 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,479 Or fantasize with.

4937 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:51,479 And especially in a time when it has become so linked to the fact that community is on the internet.

4938 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,479 It is the only place.

4939 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:58,479 It is mediated through various subcultures today.

4940 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,479 It is not gathered on a square.

4941 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,479 Or on a concert venue.

4942 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,479 Or hanging somewhere like that.

4943 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:06,479 But it is...

4944 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,479 You have a row of Instagram accounts.

4945 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,479 Or something like that.

4946 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:12,479 And you follow them.

4947 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:13,479 So...

4948 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,479 So there is Haken Bay somewhere.

4949 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:22,479 In taking back these direct relationships.

4950 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:23,479 Yes.

4951 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,479 Consciousness.

4952 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,479 Body.

4953 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,479 Meeting.

4954 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:28,479 Room.

4955 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:29,479 Yes.

4956 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,479 But thank you Gabriel.

4957 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,479 It was fun to talk to Haken Bay with you.

4958 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:34,479 Thank you Mathias.

4959 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:35,479 Yes.